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the planets puppet-masters almost sure

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we know the lying to us just don't know

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what to green where would we be without

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a car wouldn't come alright higher side

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chatters we have been digesting the

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esoteric toolbox of the nefarious cabal

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for some time trying to unpack and

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understand the very blueprints of

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reality they have been mapping out and

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mastering behind the closed doors of

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initiative orders for centuries and the

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further we get the more it seems that

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our construct is mostly a matrix of

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cycles energies and archetypes filtered

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down from some ethereal plane and

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playing themselves out like the

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universe's own original Netflix and when

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you see the patterns play out it's

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easier to keep from getting caught up in

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political infighting avoid

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emotionally-charged propaganda and

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recognize the ways in which the power

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pyramid leans into these archetypes when

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it suits them and directs energy cycles

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right into their own little wind column

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but it's not all about the oily

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appendages of the overlords or the

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archons influence we can also use this

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knowledge to better understand our own

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path and reason for living for when in

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doubt consult the cosmic script and

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there are many systems and maps to

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consult from astrology and mythology to

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Kabbalah and the grimoires but today

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ladies and gentlemen the offering on the

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higher side altar is the turo because

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today's guest Robert Bonomo knows it

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inside and out and has recently released

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a great documentary explaining the fools

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journey through the major arcana

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clocking in at nearly three hours called

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the 21 faces of God available for free

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on YouTube he's also a blogger novelist

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and astrologer whose work can be found

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on his web site that cactus landcom here

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to help us get a grip on the ones and

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zeros of the big machine the Tarot

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teacher and archetype preacher Robert my

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welcome to THC thanks a lot great to be

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on yeah man thanks for being here I

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really enjoyed the 21 phases of God you

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use a lot of clips from film and pop

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culture that I think really helped to

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make the connection between the

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characters of the Tarot and how these

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same archetypes are still the major game

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in town and I tried my best in the intro

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there but how would you explain the

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Tarot to people who maybe just think of

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it as a deck of colorful cards

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why is it more than just that yeah I

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think the key element why it's different

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are the major arcana because it was a

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card game and there's nothing wrong with

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that you know he originated as a card

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game that moved probably from Egypt from

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the Mamluks into Europe and in

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Renaissance Italy they adapted the game

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by adding the major arcana so these

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cards would trump the lower pips okay

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and this set of archetypes worthy I

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think probably most important archetypes

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in late medieval early Renaissance Italy

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and they were ordered so there is an

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order to them and I think that was

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really important so they give us a

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glimpse a really good glimpse of what

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the major archetypes are and also they

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show us a path

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I would say it's a deep esoteric message

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inside a game I like that and the fact

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that it wasn't initially made for a

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definition is kind of curious to me that

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it turned out to be so good for that

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because of course it got more refined

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later in Europe like you said but today

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that's what we think of as its primary

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purpose and I guess maybe it seems like

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whether it's chicken bones or runes or

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the Stars the code of reality's

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underbelly seems to just come out in any

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system that we put enough focus and

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attention on is that fair to say oh

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absolutely absolutely I mean divination

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every culture in the world has a system

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of divination but I think what happens

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is the more powerful the symbols or the

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archetypes in the system the better it

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works so for example you could throw

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feathers up in the air and say well I

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think it's gonna rain but if each

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feather has a meaning and not a mean

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aegis that you gave it but that was

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given to it thousands of years ago it

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seems to work a little bit better like

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the zodiac I mean the zodiac is just a

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big metaphor in the sky but it does seem

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to work yeah that's you mentioned the

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zodiac talked to us about the connection

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between the Tarot and astrology because

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this does seem to be the real Nexus of

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one of your expertise is at least yeah

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and to understand I think the Tarot

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would to understand any esoteric system

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eventually you're gonna have to learn

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astrology because it is sort of a mother

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of all of these systems because I mean

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if you think about that basic hermetic

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concept of as above so below that's why

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the zodiac and astrology is so important

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to any esoteric system that said my

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belief is whoever created that first set

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of major arcana

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I don't think they were saying oh

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there's an association between Aries

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here and tourists there and I don't

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think that's true but for example in the

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film occasionally I use those

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correspondences because they help

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because just like the zodiac

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is a path from the spring to the summer

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the fall finally death in the winter and

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the rebirth the taro follows something

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at least a little bit similar so they

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can help us understand the meaning of

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the cards but to say that this card

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means Aries for example or you know I

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think that's a big mistake

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that's a big mistake archetypes never

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equal anything archetypes are like

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epiphanies they just kind of hit you and

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to say that they equal something or they

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are something I don't think that's right

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mmm yes I like that it's kind of like of

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course there's not a one-to-one

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correlation but they maybe both

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represent some unspeakable archetype

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some thing we don't necessarily have

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language for yeah exactly like for

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example the chariot does have that kind

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of summary can't Syrian quality to it

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right but you wouldn't associate the

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chariot with water either you see what I

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mean so it's definitely not a one-to-one

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kind of identification but that idea

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that's kind of summer explodes and

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cancer and the cardinal sign of cancer

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that can help you understand the chariot

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card but I don't think that would people

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say oh well it definitely means this and

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that and like you know I gave a

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presentation this weekend in Berlin at

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their culture conference and that was

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one of the things I talked about was

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these archetypes if you look at it and

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this would be my perspective is more

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platonic these are forms that have

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always existed and always will exist and

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they appear again and again in our

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culture so for example I used the

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example of the magician

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the magician you could go back to Hermes

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and tall thin Egypt and then you have

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the magician card and then I use the

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example the 20th century Andy Warhol for

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me Andy Warhol is a true magician an

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alchemist complete and he really

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represents that card I mean you can see

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that archetype in him just taking a

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brillo box and chuckling and selling it

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for god knows how many millions of

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dollars you know that's magic that's

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real magic not [\h__\h] for people who

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yeah for people who don't really know

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that much about him I guess his shtick

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was to take ordinary objects and then

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elevate them to the level of art yeah

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but you have to remember he was a

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graphic artist now I were used to work

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in advertising so you know I have a lot

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of respect for graphic artists but I

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also know most graphic artists are

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starving to death Andy Warhol was the

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best graphic artist in New York City I

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mean he became rich doing that and then

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he moved into art and so he understood

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advertising because advertising is true

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that really is magic because you're

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using language to change people's

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thoughts to change their actions right

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so he came from that world and he was

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one of the best at it and then he wanted

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to art so I think the more distance we

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get from him and we can see exactly what

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he was saying what he was predicting

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about our society I think he was a

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genius right on yeah I mean so you

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mentioned you used to work in marketing

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advertising I used to work in retail you

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made them hungry and I fed them the slop

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but hey who we are and I did want to ask

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you though how does the esoteric context

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of these things that you've learned

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about like archetypes play out in the

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marketing world I mean it they're using

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this stuff right oh absolutely

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absolutely what I did I worked in direct

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marketing and I was actually pretty good

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at what I did in my niche financial

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services so we sold financial education

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and I'd never forget landing on a

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picture and it was a guy and a gal in a

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car and you saw the back of them in the

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open road and that picture just worked

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really well

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and whatever I said or did it didn't

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matter what people saw was that picture

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you sold them kind of a dream and you

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can say okay what's just a pretty girl

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in a nice car but not really its

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movement a path all of this stuff these

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are real archetypes and when you can

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embed that in a message so I'm not

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selling you of course what I'm selling

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you is Road that's beautiful and open

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and free you know that kind of stuff

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it's crucial in advertising and one

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other thing I learned in advertising is

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keep it simple my campaigns that I tried

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to get cute with they all tanked it was

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always a simple very fundamental

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archetypical message and that's what

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resonates with people it resonates on

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are very kind of base level but it

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resonates right I just don't think

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people realize how much that does have

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an effect and yet it seems like that's

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its most practical application or maybe

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just because we are in such a

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money-hungry

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capitalist society if it doesn't make

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money and ain't worth knowing about and

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so they found a way to incorporate it

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into that stuff and you know knowing

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about it is great because you fall

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victim to it less often and you know

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let's just not forget the technology

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that's going on now when I worked in

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this say ten years ago literally we were

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in the stone Age's today

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you know usually multivariate testing

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right I can take someone who's been on

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15 of the same websites that you've been

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on and I've tested thousands of people

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who've been on those 15 websites which

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message works best which colors work

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best which combinations work best

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I mean Direct Marketing has become it's

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not a shotgun anymore I mean it's a

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sniper scope so people have to be really

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careful because they can really change

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through technology they can make slight

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adjustments in your thoughts that can

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create a desire that a certain

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percentage of people will fulfill so you

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have to be really careful what they can

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do now is amazing it's mind-boggling and

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it's real I mean that's not whoo-hoo

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stuff this is

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you know data right it's just data

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manipulation big data of course and so

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let's get into the history of the Tarot

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a bit let's get back to that because I

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was find it interesting just how long

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something like the Tarot has actually

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been in existence and like we said it

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wasn't initially for divination but how

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far back can we see the Tarot going and

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what are some of the major bullet points

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on its journey through time yes so you

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can go back to Egypt in the mammal oops

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no the mammal oops were actually oh they

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have a long history of being from

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Central Asia and then they were

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mercenaries in Egypt and actually took

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over Egypt so the game began there at

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least the modern terrorem began there

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just as a gambling game moves into Italy

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the key dates would be around maybe 1300

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it moves into Italy by about 1400 in

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change emerge the major arcana which

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that's what my film is about which I

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think are the most interesting

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archetypes there so that's another

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really important date early 1400s then

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when we move into the 1700s up until

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that point it's basically a game

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an extremely popular game we know that

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because for example when it moves out of

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Italy into France

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it becomes very popular in Paris and

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they know that buy that card tax so you

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have to pay a tax to buy cards and you

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can go back and see that this game was

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extremely popular as a game so in the

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1700s there are certain people who begin

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to write about it as an esoteric

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movement and then in the 19th century

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you get all of us levy

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elephants levy I think really kind of

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gives it a prominent place in esoteric

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thinking

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and then to get to the early nineteen

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1909 you get the right or wait deck and

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then you have the golden dawn and all

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that stuff but basically as a tool of

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divination you're looking about from the

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1700s onward hmm right on and so I think

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people here who are listening I think

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they like the esoteric episodes I do for

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the most part but I'm sure there are

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some people thinking god another magic

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episode I thought this was a conspiracy

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podcast there are so many crazy things

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going on in the world you want to talk

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about playing cards and I get that I

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mean for those people what would you say

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is the value of Tarot or astrology even

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for better understanding current events

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how do they relate right that's a great

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question if you think about the

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archetypes that are used in every

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political event and I show this in my

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section on the film on archetypes over

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when I show Putin coming up the steps

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yes and then Obama coming out and then I

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use Renny Riefenstahl the munich rallies

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all of that paraphernalia of power those

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are all archetypes very powerful

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archetypes that they use to trigger in

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you that idea that that's the alpha male

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this is the alpha male he's the boss if

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you don't dude he says you can beat the

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[\h__\h] out of you and stay away from his

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women now that is deeply ingrained in us

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very deeply ingrained and then for

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example the goddess a beauty I use a

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Chanel ad in the film though but when

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you see her getting out of bed wrapping

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that sheet around her

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I mean she's Venus so if you don't

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understand these archetypes and how

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powerful they are you don't understand

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the culture

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remember it's not beating the game

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you're never gonna beat the game but you

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got to understand it own the game if you

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really understand it then you can read

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the newspaper and you can see what

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they're telling you and what they're

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trying to get you to do

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that's the key to understanding all of

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these esoteric elements because they are

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these are the building blocks of our

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culture mm-hmm and they're still as

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powerful as they always were yes well

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said and what they're trying to get us

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to do that is the crux of you know the

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bottom line of what I'm always trying to

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get at and I do think that these

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archetypes help us quite a bit and it

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really is what we said about marketing

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applied to politics you know they're

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using this stuff to manipulate us

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whether it's to buy a product or buy a

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politician's [\h__\h] and when we look

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at even halftime shows or award show

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ceremonies its kind of crazy when you

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mentioned the goddess I mean that is

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often what we see Katy Perry coming out

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on a lion of fire and embodying the

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goddess and it's like there's clearly

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something going on here this is drawing

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on some kind of ancient archetype

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ancient energy and I'm not sure if it's

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sometimes maybe subconscious or

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conscious but I guess to use that as an

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example when we see a award show

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ceremony and it's got the twin pillars

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and it's got all these things invoking

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the elements and these symbols that

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we've seen before what are they trying

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to get us to do just enchant us in a

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sense

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yeah they're using these archetypes to

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make you feel like you have a place in

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this system I mean think about the

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president I mean the president doesn't

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go to work in a Ford Taurus or something

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and get out and go into a normal-looking

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building to do his job she's got a

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flying in a helicopter have two Marines

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salute him have all sorts of flags

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flying to identify him as the Emperor

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right hmm when you walk into a bank and

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you see those pillars you're walking

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into a temple a sacred place and there's

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a sacred language the thing is when you

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walk into a bank they're trying to

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instill in you this idea that you are in

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a sacred place with a very esoteric

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language that you'll never understand

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but just absorb the beauty in that

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feeling of power how many people can

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walk into a bank like you're walking

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into a 7-eleven it's a different feeling

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right mm-hmm they spend a ton of money

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on that a lot of money and it's for a

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good reason because imagine if you

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walked in you just started asking normal

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questions right I mean that costume

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makes it seem official they kind of make

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it look like a government building

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sometimes even though it isn't and it's

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just a sanctuary for money the true

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global religion right exactly

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money is a great place to start I mean

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when you go into Church you don't

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usually walk up to the priest and say

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hey what is this wafer thing that we're

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always eating I mean what's in it right

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because you're terrified yeah you can't

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you can it goes against the liturgy and

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the Liturgy of a bank is you walk in to

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this enormous business with always very

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high ceilings and sort of series people

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dressed in suits and give us your money

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don't ask questions sign everything who

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understands with the signing when they

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go to a bank who's ever read a full bank

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loan no seriously I mean what percent of

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people actually read the whole thing

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right it's got to be low

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it's an esoteric way it's like alchemy

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banking is true alchemy like I used to

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sell courses for financial education so

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you take these courses you learn how to

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trade options and what do you get you

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get the philosopher's stone

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that's what we were selling we were

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selling the Philosopher's Stone you sit

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on your computer at your pool you

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playing around with it for a couple

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hours a day and you're rich anything you

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want

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girls swimming pools you know live the

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lifestyle that's what we used to say you

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know lives the lifestyle mm-hmm

529
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we were selling people something very

530
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archetypical that philosopher's stone

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and remember there's two philosophers

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stones there's one that turns light into

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gold and there's one that turns your

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soul from something very material to

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something more that functions on a

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higher level hmm right and it all plays

537
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out like a digital scrying mirror in

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that case it seems but sure I I guess

539
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you are right I don't think about it

540
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that much but a lot of that showmanship

541
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does facilitate a type of intimidation

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and you just aren't coming from a

543
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:11,900
position of power it's like being in

544
00:22:15,010 --> 00:22:13,490
front of the judge even for something as

545
00:22:16,540 --> 00:22:15,020
simple as a traffic ticket if you're

546
00:22:19,090 --> 00:22:16,550
sitting in traffic court and you see

547
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:19,100
people processed up there they're all

548
00:22:22,750 --> 00:22:21,050
blabber and they can't they're stumbling

549
00:22:25,660 --> 00:22:22,760
over their own words because they are

550
00:22:27,669 --> 00:22:25,670
just so low on that power totem pole

551
00:22:31,510 --> 00:22:27,679
because of the context of the judge

552
00:22:34,299 --> 00:22:31,520
sitting up high and the seriousness of

553
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:34,309
the official you know language they're

554
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:36,530
using and all that stuff but it's huge

555
00:22:42,130 --> 00:22:39,170
and that's crucial because that arcane

556
00:22:44,470 --> 00:22:42,140
language intimidates us and it puts us

557
00:22:46,750 --> 00:22:44,480
in that situation of being in a

558
00:22:49,330 --> 00:22:46,760
religious setting mm-hmm that's somebody

559
00:22:51,340 --> 00:22:49,340
with deep knowledge tradition he's

560
00:22:54,430 --> 00:22:51,350
carrying this tradition and we should

561
00:22:56,530 --> 00:22:54,440
listen to him you know I always tell

562
00:22:59,250 --> 00:22:56,540
people if you have a friend that you

563
00:23:01,960 --> 00:22:59,260
want to kind of wake up a little bit

564
00:23:04,930 --> 00:23:01,970
explain the whole money narrative and

565
00:23:06,940 --> 00:23:04,940
you'll watch they won't believe you

566
00:23:08,710 --> 00:23:06,950
because they'll tell you it's too simple

567
00:23:10,330 --> 00:23:08,720
it can't be that easy I've had so many

568
00:23:12,940 --> 00:23:10,340
people say no you're missing something

569
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:12,950
it can't be that simple but when they

570
00:23:19,150 --> 00:23:16,970
see it that's true magic you know people

571
00:23:21,330 --> 00:23:19,160
talk about magic that is magic right

572
00:23:24,730 --> 00:23:21,340
that you can take a whole society

573
00:23:26,650 --> 00:23:24,740
enslave them and even when they

574
00:23:29,919 --> 00:23:26,660
understand it they're like well it must

575
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:29,929
be okay you know not really they if you

576
00:23:33,550 --> 00:23:31,730
don't take it to the logical

577
00:23:36,250 --> 00:23:33,560
point you would say all right why don't

578
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:36,260
we just all stop imagine if everyone

579
00:23:40,540 --> 00:23:39,170
said enough eliminate all debt we're not

580
00:23:43,870 --> 00:23:40,550
servicing to any debt we're not paying

581
00:23:46,510 --> 00:23:43,880
any taxes until you eliminate all debt

582
00:23:48,430 --> 00:23:46,520
and get rid of this crazy system and we

583
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:48,440
go back to the Constitution that says

584
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:51,170
that the Treasury makes money we don't

585
00:23:54,460 --> 00:23:52,730
want any revolutions we all believe in

586
00:23:56,050 --> 00:23:54,470
the Constitution and until then we're

587
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:56,060
not paying any taxes are not servicing

588
00:24:00,700 --> 00:23:58,010
any debt mm-hmm no but think about how

589
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:00,710
long a the system last it would not last

590
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:03,770
three months I can tell you that because

591
00:24:06,820 --> 00:24:05,330
if everyone said we're going cash for

592
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:06,830
three months we're not servicing any

593
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:09,200
debt we're not paying any taxes the

594
00:24:12,550 --> 00:24:11,090
whole thing would collapse in three

595
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:12,560
months and we get what we want

596
00:24:17,950 --> 00:24:14,810
right and that could be done on a

597
00:24:19,450 --> 00:24:17,960
nonpartisan basis we could just say look

598
00:24:20,500 --> 00:24:19,460
we're not gonna solve the world's

599
00:24:22,540 --> 00:24:20,510
problems we're not going to create

600
00:24:25,390 --> 00:24:22,550
utopia but this system we're gonna stop

601
00:24:27,010 --> 00:24:25,400
because this is a scam and it's enough I

602
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:27,020
mean when I see these kids coming out of

603
00:24:30,910 --> 00:24:28,490
college and now with degrees in gender

604
00:24:33,250 --> 00:24:30,920
studies a hundred grand in the hole you

605
00:24:35,470 --> 00:24:33,260
know and they're like oh I'm so you know

606
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:35,480
I mean are you kidding me and we let

607
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:38,810
this happen to kids right we do this to

608
00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:39,650
our children

609
00:24:46,730 --> 00:24:43,130
I mean it's disgraceful and it just

610
00:24:49,970 --> 00:24:46,740
shows a total lack of will

611
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:49,980
just people with balls who say enough we

612
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:51,360
have all these guns why don't we [\h__\h]

613
00:24:57,500 --> 00:24:54,210
use them you know say enough stop

614
00:24:59,570 --> 00:24:57,510
enslaving my children and stop enslaving

615
00:25:01,580 --> 00:24:59,580
the world you know and we could do it

616
00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:01,590
without killing anybody that any

617
00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:04,559
violence without any protests we just

618
00:25:08,030 --> 00:25:06,809
said enough right but we don't because

619
00:25:10,970 --> 00:25:08,040
we have no balls

620
00:25:13,820 --> 00:25:10,980
we're slaves most people like being

621
00:25:16,340 --> 00:25:13,830
slaves mmm they love it they wake up

622
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:16,350
tell me what to do tell me what to think

623
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:19,170
it is true so we have no one to blame

624
00:25:23,690 --> 00:25:22,050
but ourselves mm-hmm mm-hmm the whole

625
00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:23,700
ignorance is bliss then I've got friends

626
00:25:27,770 --> 00:25:26,130
that really do just want a simple job

627
00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:27,780
that they don't have to take home so

628
00:25:32,299 --> 00:25:30,960
they'll do the nine-to-five they don't

629
00:25:33,740 --> 00:25:32,309
want to think about it otherwise they

630
00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:33,750
just want to watch the game on Sunday

631
00:25:37,910 --> 00:25:35,760
and go back to work on Monday and have

632
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:37,920
enough money for the house and that's

633
00:25:43,370 --> 00:25:40,650
kind of a sad reality but this is the

634
00:25:46,370 --> 00:25:43,380
system that we are born into mm-hmm so

635
00:25:47,810 --> 00:25:46,380
unfortunately it is it is so going back

636
00:25:50,030 --> 00:25:47,820
to current events a lot of people of

637
00:25:52,370 --> 00:25:50,040
course seem hyper focused on Trump or

638
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:52,380
they're worried about some caravan or

639
00:25:56,150 --> 00:25:53,970
they're frustrated with the constant

640
00:25:59,299 --> 00:25:56,160
Russia talk or these California fires

641
00:26:02,570 --> 00:25:59,309
are any of these examples of things that

642
00:26:05,330 --> 00:26:02,580
you see coming as the manifestation of

643
00:26:08,570 --> 00:26:05,340
archetypes or expressions of some type

644
00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:08,580
of predictable cycle oh sure because you

645
00:26:15,140 --> 00:26:11,580
know archetypes begin in duality I use

646
00:26:18,530 --> 00:26:15,150
this in the films I mean duality is the

647
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:18,540
landscape right and consciousness is the

648
00:26:23,660 --> 00:26:20,850
light that shines on it everything

649
00:26:25,370 --> 00:26:23,670
appears in twos so you've got to have a

650
00:26:27,710 --> 00:26:25,380
good guy and you've got to have a bad

651
00:26:30,650 --> 00:26:27,720
guy you've got to have the caravan

652
00:26:33,380 --> 00:26:30,660
coming up you know the fires here that

653
00:26:34,910 --> 00:26:33,390
this that it all and I'm not sure it's

654
00:26:36,140 --> 00:26:34,920
completely conscious I'm not saying that

655
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:36,150
there's somebody behind the curtain

656
00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:38,610
who's playing this all out because the

657
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:40,080
archetypes are bigger than we are

658
00:26:44,180 --> 00:26:41,730
there's nobody who can can dominate

659
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:44,190
these things you know what I mean it's

660
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:47,250
like number hmm nobody invented number

661
00:26:52,190 --> 00:26:49,650
they were discovered and they just

662
00:26:53,610 --> 00:26:52,200
permeate our culture you can't escape

663
00:26:55,710 --> 00:26:53,620
them you

664
00:26:57,330 --> 00:26:55,720
can't manipulate number in our society

665
00:27:00,330 --> 00:26:57,340
right I mean a number is a number three

666
00:27:02,580 --> 00:27:00,340
is three these archetypes are there now

667
00:27:05,610 --> 00:27:02,590
you can use them to your benefit and

668
00:27:08,220 --> 00:27:05,620
they are definitely used I mean the

669
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:08,230
whole idea of everything in the news is

670
00:27:13,710 --> 00:27:11,050
a narrative the way we move through time

671
00:27:15,090 --> 00:27:13,720
are through archetypical narratives I

672
00:27:16,740 --> 00:27:15,100
mean the famous one of course is the

673
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:16,750
hero's journey but there are many many

674
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:20,050
different narrative arcs and these are

675
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:23,170
all put into play so when you read the

676
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:24,490
news what are you reading you're reading

677
00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:27,130
somebody who's making up a story there

678
00:27:31,110 --> 00:27:28,809
are a few events and they make up a

679
00:27:34,020 --> 00:27:31,120
story and a great example of this if

680
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:34,030
anyone reads financial news the Nasdaq

681
00:27:38,850 --> 00:27:36,970
yesterday tanked does anyone know why no

682
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:38,860
one knows why they make up a story they

683
00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:40,690
say well you know oil prices did this

684
00:27:45,180 --> 00:27:42,880
and Apple did that so that's why it sank

685
00:27:47,490 --> 00:27:45,190
that's how all of these narratives are

686
00:27:50,580 --> 00:27:47,500
created people coming up with stories

687
00:27:51,030 --> 00:27:50,590
but is there a truth to them of course

688
00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:51,040
not

689
00:27:58,260 --> 00:27:54,880
they're stories hmm right and it is kind

690
00:28:00,540 --> 00:27:58,270
of hard to parse out to what degree they

691
00:28:02,549 --> 00:28:00,550
are manipulated or used I mean knowing

692
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:02,559
the archetypes are there is just half

693
00:28:06,780 --> 00:28:04,330
the battle and then it just seems like

694
00:28:08,910 --> 00:28:06,790
maybe they cast them out like paper

695
00:28:12,210 --> 00:28:08,920
ships on the ocean and some of them grow

696
00:28:14,010 --> 00:28:12,220
to become more potent and others kind of

697
00:28:17,790 --> 00:28:14,020
fizzle out because it's all about which

698
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:17,800
ones catch the populace is energy right

699
00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:20,410
but when you look at the news cycle I

700
00:28:25,530 --> 00:28:22,720
mean it's all this kind of stuff it's

701
00:28:26,850 --> 00:28:25,540
just maybe they can't exactly determine

702
00:28:28,919 --> 00:28:26,860
which ones are gonna catch fire and

703
00:28:31,470 --> 00:28:28,929
which ones aren't but if you cast enough

704
00:28:35,210 --> 00:28:31,480
out you're gonna control people and have

705
00:28:38,430 --> 00:28:35,220
them just emotionally moving from one

706
00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:38,440
hyper-inflated story to another oh my

707
00:28:42,690 --> 00:28:40,080
god I mean take the whole Russia thing

708
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:42,700
is there anything to that story that was

709
00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:44,770
a story that was invented and pushed and

710
00:28:50,730 --> 00:28:46,960
promoted but there's nothing there but

711
00:28:53,330 --> 00:28:50,740
if you asked I would say probably 40% of

712
00:28:55,860 --> 00:28:53,340
Americans probably think that the FSB

713
00:28:58,049 --> 00:28:55,870
hacked into Hillary's emails and they

714
00:28:59,970 --> 00:28:58,059
said Donald you know let's make a deal

715
00:29:01,919 --> 00:28:59,980
you know I mean just anyone really

716
00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:01,929
believe that the FSB is that stupid or

717
00:29:06,660 --> 00:29:04,510
that smart in the sense that they knew

718
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:06,670
Hillary was gonna lose you know it's

719
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:07,450
ridiculous

720
00:29:14,770 --> 00:29:10,330
the story has absolutely no foundation

721
00:29:16,090 --> 00:29:14,780
at all because our Russians that dumb

722
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:16,100
I don't think so if they hacked into

723
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:17,930
Amelia I have no idea of what was every

724
00:29:21,340 --> 00:29:19,730
night and they had emails on her they

725
00:29:23,260 --> 00:29:21,350
probably think well the best chance is

726
00:29:25,150 --> 00:29:23,270
she's gonna win this so let's hold these

727
00:29:27,130 --> 00:29:25,160
cards and then when she gets in she

728
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:27,140
plays ball fine if she doesn't start

729
00:29:32,260 --> 00:29:29,690
tossing these things out you know they

730
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:32,270
create this sort of evil that's there

731
00:29:38,650 --> 00:29:35,090
it's all invented it's all narrative

732
00:29:41,140 --> 00:29:38,660
right and there's also this insinuation

733
00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:41,150
that the manipulation of elections is

734
00:29:45,430 --> 00:29:43,910
somehow new that for as long as there's

735
00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:45,440
been elections there haven't been people

736
00:29:49,450 --> 00:29:47,360
trying to game it in the shadows I mean

737
00:29:51,300 --> 00:29:49,460
it's kind of funny that a lot of the

738
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:51,310
things going on in politics now

739
00:29:55,390 --> 00:29:53,570
hindsight doesn't exist they just think

740
00:29:57,670 --> 00:29:55,400
that everything is happening for the

741
00:30:00,040 --> 00:29:57,680
first time meanwhile in my opinion like

742
00:30:02,230 --> 00:30:00,050
all this kind of stuff that people are

743
00:30:04,210 --> 00:30:02,240
worried about now has been going on for

744
00:30:06,430 --> 00:30:04,220
as long as there's been empires as long

745
00:30:09,250 --> 00:30:06,440
as there's been government oh of course

746
00:30:11,290 --> 00:30:09,260
and I mean democracy is a joke it's a

747
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:11,300
complete joke I mean really when you

748
00:30:14,530 --> 00:30:12,890
think about it it really and I know this

749
00:30:17,140 --> 00:30:14,540
seems like a cliche but it's Coke or

750
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:17,150
Pepsi I mean would there been absolutely

751
00:30:22,810 --> 00:30:18,890
any difference between Trump or Hillary

752
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:22,820
in our lives for example the whole scam

753
00:30:27,550 --> 00:30:25,850
of the banking system the whole Empire

754
00:30:29,350 --> 00:30:27,560
thing with soldiers all over the world

755
00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:29,360
and the violence and all this stuff

756
00:30:33,790 --> 00:30:31,520
would any of that changed absolutely not

757
00:30:35,230 --> 00:30:33,800
and on top of it with Trump the

758
00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:35,240
newspapers are making a fortune

759
00:30:41,170 --> 00:30:38,720
newspaper business was horrendous it was

760
00:30:43,660 --> 00:30:41,180
dying until Trump came along that's why

761
00:30:45,130 --> 00:30:43,670
I know it's truck'll it's true Trump's

762
00:30:48,790 --> 00:30:45,140
this you guys are finally making some

763
00:30:50,050 --> 00:30:48,800
money yeah it's if that part is true but

764
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:50,060
of course there's absolutely no

765
00:30:55,030 --> 00:30:51,890
difference between these two people none

766
00:30:56,860 --> 00:30:55,040
it's the same thing I agree and I do

767
00:30:58,870 --> 00:30:56,870
like when he says that just because it

768
00:31:03,670 --> 00:30:58,880
is such a twisting of the knife it is

769
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:03,680
such a great troll line Paul just they

770
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:05,690
hate them so much but now they rely on

771
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:07,970
him and they have him to thank for the

772
00:31:11,650 --> 00:31:09,770
attention that they now get and the

773
00:31:14,130 --> 00:31:11,660
advertising dollars they're able to make

774
00:31:16,660 --> 00:31:14,140
because of all the eyeballs are back on

775
00:31:18,610 --> 00:31:16,670
conventional media yeah I mean go back

776
00:31:20,050 --> 00:31:18,620
to the summer of 2016

777
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:20,060
imagine if Trump had lost in the

778
00:31:23,869 --> 00:31:21,650
primaries to I don't know who was

779
00:31:27,109 --> 00:31:23,879
somebody else that could have won

780
00:31:29,419 --> 00:31:27,119
I don't head ok perfect Ted Cruz of

781
00:31:31,159 --> 00:31:29,429
course Ted Cruz would have lost I mean

782
00:31:32,569 --> 00:31:31,169
who would have cared about Ted Cruz or

783
00:31:33,949 --> 00:31:32,579
Hillary Clinton that election would have

784
00:31:36,529 --> 00:31:33,959
had been the most one of those boring

785
00:31:38,569 --> 00:31:36,539
elections imaginable it would have

786
00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:38,579
destroyed the New York Times about but

787
00:31:42,139 --> 00:31:40,409
now they're making a fortune and of

788
00:31:43,759 --> 00:31:42,149
course the Russia story was great you

789
00:31:46,699 --> 00:31:43,769
remember every night Rachel Maddow

790
00:31:49,729 --> 00:31:46,709
I remember once she showed a map of

791
00:31:51,499 --> 00:31:49,739
North Korea and she showed the border

792
00:31:55,009 --> 00:31:51,509
with Russia and she's like look there's

793
00:31:57,129 --> 00:31:55,019
a border with Russia North Korea woo woo

794
00:31:59,930 --> 00:31:57,139
woo I was I mean I couldn't believe it

795
00:32:03,680 --> 00:31:59,940
if people didn't throw out their TVs

796
00:32:06,019 --> 00:32:03,690
then I mean they never will yeah and you

797
00:32:09,409 --> 00:32:06,029
deserve what you get yes

798
00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:09,419
and so another analogy or kind of in

799
00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:11,940
that kind of archetypical way i like to

800
00:32:16,999 --> 00:32:13,440
talk about the archons

801
00:32:18,919 --> 00:32:17,009
as a bit of a metaphor and i heard you

802
00:32:20,869 --> 00:32:18,929
on a on byte talking about the demise of

803
00:32:23,209 --> 00:32:20,879
the current manifestation of the archons

804
00:32:25,819 --> 00:32:23,219
pointing out that the sheen is pretty

805
00:32:28,099 --> 00:32:25,829
much worn off of facebook and google and

806
00:32:30,109 --> 00:32:28,109
amazon people are sorta wising up to

807
00:32:32,719 --> 00:32:30,119
these platforms but I like that idea

808
00:32:34,939 --> 00:32:32,729
it's similar to that show American Gods

809
00:32:38,239 --> 00:32:34,949
or that I guess graphic novel American

810
00:32:40,459 --> 00:32:38,249
Gods where pretty much any trend or

811
00:32:43,549 --> 00:32:40,469
place where people put their energy is a

812
00:32:45,859 --> 00:32:43,559
God form or an Archon of sorts and their

813
00:32:48,619 --> 00:32:45,869
strength and influence are related to

814
00:32:50,779 --> 00:32:48,629
how much attention they get is that sort

815
00:32:53,299 --> 00:32:50,789
of how you look at the world and things

816
00:32:55,189 --> 00:32:53,309
that pop up in pop culture yeah that's a

817
00:32:57,049 --> 00:32:55,199
really good question because from the

818
00:32:59,720 --> 00:32:57,059
Gnostic point of view the archons are

819
00:33:02,090 --> 00:32:59,730
what rule this world

820
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:02,100
and so if you're of this world and in

821
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:04,770
this world then what rules your world

822
00:33:10,510 --> 00:33:07,170
you know just watch a football game in

823
00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:10,520
all those advertisers and all that

824
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:12,510
paraphernalia and the googles and the

825
00:33:17,150 --> 00:33:14,690
Facebook's and all these people

826
00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:17,160
absolutely that's the mechanism of

827
00:33:20,570 --> 00:33:17,910
control

828
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:20,580
that's it I was just reading today about

829
00:33:23,030 --> 00:33:22,410
Facebook I mean Facebook is in real

830
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:23,040
trouble

831
00:33:29,420 --> 00:33:26,880
we probably reached peak Facebook at

832
00:33:32,570 --> 00:33:29,430
least in the United States by viewers

833
00:33:34,420 --> 00:33:32,580
and by time on site I remember I'm old

834
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:34,430
enough to remember my space my space

835
00:33:39,950 --> 00:33:37,530
everyone was on MySpace who bought it

836
00:33:41,930 --> 00:33:39,960
Fox bought it and they just died it just

837
00:33:45,380 --> 00:33:41,940
died and it seemed like a matter of

838
00:33:49,490 --> 00:33:45,390
months it was gone as an important force

839
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:49,500
No so yeah we are in a very very strange

840
00:33:53,300 --> 00:33:51,930
moment in history and that's why the

841
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:53,310
whole Trump effect is kind of

842
00:33:57,530 --> 00:33:55,050
interesting because I think when we look

843
00:34:00,800 --> 00:33:57,540
back on this period Trump is gonna be

844
00:34:02,690 --> 00:34:00,810
the one that started all this and this

845
00:34:05,090 --> 00:34:02,700
thing that he started it but he's gonna

846
00:34:08,450 --> 00:34:05,100
be how we mark the end of an era it's

847
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:08,460
gonna be Trump there's a before Trump

848
00:34:14,660 --> 00:34:10,650
and an after Trump and things are

849
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:14,670
changing in a way that I think is beyond

850
00:34:21,230 --> 00:34:19,130
anybody's control mmm provocative and

851
00:34:24,380 --> 00:34:21,240
all this just kind of makes me think

852
00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:24,390
about the elite and really just how the

853
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:26,700
only move that will ever work for the

854
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:29,040
people is to kind of decentralize power

855
00:34:33,350 --> 00:34:31,200
and carve up the empire into smaller

856
00:34:36,410 --> 00:34:33,360
pieces because the gods or the archons

857
00:34:38,300 --> 00:34:36,420
these forces they seem to be attracted

858
00:34:40,220 --> 00:34:38,310
to power and the bigger machine they

859
00:34:42,110 --> 00:34:40,230
have to work through the more damage

860
00:34:44,630 --> 00:34:42,120
they can do and that also applies to

861
00:34:46,510 --> 00:34:44,640
these digital behemoths like Facebook

862
00:34:48,860 --> 00:34:46,520
and Google obviously it applies to

863
00:34:50,450 --> 00:34:48,870
humans too and it's not unlike the old

864
00:34:52,910 --> 00:34:50,460
phrase absolute power corrupts

865
00:34:55,970 --> 00:34:52,920
absolutely but it gets more interesting

866
00:34:58,460 --> 00:34:55,980
when you also consider that influence is

867
00:35:00,450 --> 00:34:58,470
possibly coming through from the

868
00:35:02,460 --> 00:35:00,460
spiritual plane

869
00:35:05,309 --> 00:35:02,470
which influenced the negative influence

870
00:35:07,950 --> 00:35:05,319
well generally all all the influences

871
00:35:09,930 --> 00:35:07,960
that act through these behemoths is

872
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:09,940
almost like they're sock puppets on a

873
00:35:15,150 --> 00:35:12,490
stage like there's forces may be

874
00:35:17,819 --> 00:35:15,160
spiritual forces or a narcotic force

875
00:35:19,470 --> 00:35:17,829
working through Facebook or working

876
00:35:21,390 --> 00:35:19,480
through Google you know that kind of

877
00:35:23,849 --> 00:35:21,400
thing well you know I look at it a

878
00:35:26,819 --> 00:35:23,859
little bit differently maybe that I

879
00:35:29,700 --> 00:35:26,829
don't see evil as an entity I just see

880
00:35:32,579 --> 00:35:29,710
evil as an extreme if we go on the

881
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:32,589
material extreme that's where you would

882
00:35:37,170 --> 00:35:35,200
get these forces so it's that whole

883
00:35:38,579 --> 00:35:37,180
energy of the universe but working on a

884
00:35:42,930 --> 00:35:38,589
very Material Plane

885
00:35:45,930 --> 00:35:42,940
now you can transcend that and work on a

886
00:35:48,059 --> 00:35:45,940
spiritual plane and then you can look at

887
00:35:50,970 --> 00:35:48,069
all that's going on the Material Plane

888
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:50,980
and kind of chuckle because it has to

889
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:53,770
happen right you're not gonna end that

890
00:35:59,339 --> 00:35:56,170
and this like I just love when people

891
00:36:01,160 --> 00:35:59,349
start talking about the 5g Network and

892
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:01,170
the Internet of Things this is the end

893
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:03,970
while they're talking on their 4G phone

894
00:36:08,910 --> 00:36:06,250
all day the thing is glued to their ear

895
00:36:09,900 --> 00:36:08,920
you know and they're chipped you know

896
00:36:12,180 --> 00:36:09,910
these are the same people talked about

897
00:36:14,279 --> 00:36:12,190
we're all gonna get chip I'm like pal

898
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:14,289
that phone knows more about you than a

899
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:16,690
chip could ever dream of knowing about

900
00:36:21,329 --> 00:36:17,770
you hmm

901
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:21,339
so we're not gonna stop it that's absurd

902
00:36:26,609 --> 00:36:23,170
to think that we're somehow gonna stop

903
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:26,619
it it's gonna go and it's gonna go where

904
00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:27,760
it wants to go

905
00:36:33,990 --> 00:36:32,710
the idea is to escape it to get out of

906
00:36:36,930 --> 00:36:34,000
this world that's why for example the

907
00:36:39,329 --> 00:36:36,940
fortune card bring it back to the Tarot

908
00:36:42,990 --> 00:36:39,339
yeah I looked at the Major Arcana as a

909
00:36:44,579 --> 00:36:43,000
path the first seven cards they from the

910
00:36:46,799 --> 00:36:44,589
magician to the chariot that's the

911
00:36:48,990 --> 00:36:46,809
material plane but when you get to the

912
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:49,000
psychic plane the second seven set of

913
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:52,170
cards you go from strength right

914
00:36:56,430 --> 00:36:54,490
strength is controlling the ego

915
00:36:58,859 --> 00:36:56,440
separating yourself from the body you're

916
00:37:02,640 --> 00:36:58,869
something more than the body the Hermit

917
00:37:04,109 --> 00:37:02,650
is looking in introspection and then you

918
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:04,119
get to the wheel of fortune the wheel of

919
00:37:07,620 --> 00:37:05,650
fortune is an interesting card because

920
00:37:10,049 --> 00:37:07,630
any of your listeners who do actually

921
00:37:11,490 --> 00:37:10,059
readings when you get the wheel of

922
00:37:13,980 --> 00:37:11,500
fortune that's always consider a pretty

923
00:37:14,190 --> 00:37:13,990
good card now if you're doing a reading

924
00:37:16,020 --> 00:37:14,200
that

925
00:37:19,890 --> 00:37:16,030
the final card but the Wheel of Fortune

926
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:19,900
is a very dark medieval concept of fate

927
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:22,450
you know the three fates one who weaves

928
00:37:27,930 --> 00:37:24,640
the thread one who measures and one who

929
00:37:30,510 --> 00:37:27,940
cuts and that's the cycle of light so if

930
00:37:34,380 --> 00:37:30,520
you're completely embedded in this

931
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:34,390
material world you know eventually that

932
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:35,890
piece of thread is gonna be cut

933
00:37:39,329 --> 00:37:37,450
you're gonna go up you're gonna go down

934
00:37:42,780 --> 00:37:39,339
you're gonna have your fun and then it's

935
00:37:45,930 --> 00:37:42,790
all over but there is something else I'm

936
00:37:47,550 --> 00:37:45,940
convinced of it a monastic like in the

937
00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:47,560
film I use that line from young when

938
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:48,910
they asked them do you believe in God he

939
00:37:53,460 --> 00:37:50,770
says I don't know it's hard to say he

940
00:37:55,859 --> 00:37:53,470
says I know so I don't believe right

941
00:37:58,170 --> 00:37:55,869
mm-hmm that's where you want to be and

942
00:38:01,410 --> 00:37:58,180
you can watch all this circus and enjoy

943
00:38:03,359 --> 00:38:01,420
it because you know it's life they're

944
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:03,369
not evil Trump's not evil Hillary

945
00:38:07,740 --> 00:38:05,710
Clinton's not evil they're just you know

946
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:07,750
out there doing their thing and you know

947
00:38:14,430 --> 00:38:11,290
they have a role to play if you look at

948
00:38:16,380 --> 00:38:14,440
it that way it's much healthier and you

949
00:38:17,819 --> 00:38:16,390
know really and it won't eat at you you

950
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:17,829
won't feel like oh my god these you know

951
00:38:22,349 --> 00:38:20,079
okay let them play their games but you

952
00:38:24,540 --> 00:38:22,359
need to leave in it a little bit on a

953
00:38:27,150 --> 00:38:24,550
different level right or we need I

954
00:38:29,220 --> 00:38:27,160
absolutely agree that kind of taking a

955
00:38:31,770 --> 00:38:29,230
higher view of things can be much more

956
00:38:33,420 --> 00:38:31,780
productive but the flipside of that to

957
00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:33,430
play devil's advocate people would say

958
00:38:40,050 --> 00:38:37,510
well that allows the negativity to

959
00:38:41,940 --> 00:38:40,060
continue if you just kind of let the

960
00:38:44,809 --> 00:38:41,950
Empire do what it does instead of trying

961
00:38:47,550 --> 00:38:44,819
to resist it I mean that only

962
00:38:49,140 --> 00:38:47,560
perpetuates it in a sense it kind of you

963
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:49,150
kind of become an apologist for the

964
00:38:53,550 --> 00:38:51,130
elite in a sense is the perspective I

965
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:53,560
think some people would have if we are

966
00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:55,210
not calling them out on their crimes and

967
00:39:00,359 --> 00:38:58,000
not trying to at least give lip service

968
00:39:02,940 --> 00:39:00,369
to change obviously change is kind of

969
00:39:05,220 --> 00:39:02,950
outside of our means as individuals and

970
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:05,230
on the grand scheme but you know it just

971
00:39:11,460 --> 00:39:08,890
it feels a little weird to just accept a

972
00:39:13,290 --> 00:39:11,470
lot of that [\h__\h] you know I know

973
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:13,300
exactly what you mean you're right on a

974
00:39:20,339 --> 00:39:15,690
certain level I just think that for

975
00:39:22,020 --> 00:39:20,349
example living a life that's sane that's

976
00:39:25,050 --> 00:39:22,030
a little bit separated from that and

977
00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:25,060
when you interact with it you know just

978
00:39:27,470 --> 00:39:26,800
putting your two cents every time I go

979
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:27,480
to the bank

980
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:29,250
because I've worked in banking so I

981
00:39:32,420 --> 00:39:30,690
understand banking I just point out a

982
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:32,430
few things like today I went I threw

983
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:34,410
something in the bank and I said you

984
00:39:39,020 --> 00:39:36,890
know you guys you guys are up to no good

985
00:39:40,370 --> 00:39:39,030
one day people are gonna wake up to that

986
00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:40,380
and I heard the teller she kind of

987
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:42,480
looked at me sometimes I get angry but

988
00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:43,920
she kind of looked at me kind of smirk

989
00:39:51,079 --> 00:39:47,510
you know just kind of bring the message

990
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:51,089
slowly because the beautiful thing is

991
00:39:54,890 --> 00:39:53,040
great so many people are starting to

992
00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:54,900
understand what's going on mm-hmm

993
00:40:01,460 --> 00:39:56,730
and when enough of us understand what's

994
00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:01,470
going on it's like a stupid argument you

995
00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:02,609
know when you get in a stupid argument

996
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:04,079
and you're just like what are you

997
00:40:09,970 --> 00:40:05,760
talking about the other person gets

998
00:40:13,309 --> 00:40:09,980
deflated they need all this crazy energy

999
00:40:15,799 --> 00:40:13,319
to keep going if people just kind of

1000
00:40:17,780 --> 00:40:15,809
back off a little bit just like you said

1001
00:40:21,010 --> 00:40:17,790
the archons need that they live off that

1002
00:40:23,930 --> 00:40:21,020
energy if we just back off a little bit

1003
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:23,940
don't use the smart phones get off of

1004
00:40:31,099 --> 00:40:27,690
Facebook stop paying for cable start

1005
00:40:34,220 --> 00:40:31,109
using more cash if enough of us hit that

1006
00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:34,230
that's all we need to do you're right

1007
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:36,569
and I think that is a great point rather

1008
00:40:42,799 --> 00:40:39,530
than shaking our fists at the sky and

1009
00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:42,809
claiming moral superiority you can go

1010
00:40:47,150 --> 00:40:44,609
about it differently be like a subtle

1011
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:47,160
cedar of truth or an agent of change on

1012
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:49,770
the down-low rather than just being led

1013
00:40:56,720 --> 00:40:53,760
around by the nose emotionally over the

1014
00:41:00,530 --> 00:40:56,730
crimes of say the Clinton cabal it is a

1015
00:41:03,260 --> 00:41:00,540
kind of a position of power to give them

1016
00:41:05,630 --> 00:41:03,270
less you know - Fiona's lesson energy

1017
00:41:07,789 --> 00:41:05,640
into the beast like for example your

1018
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:07,799
show you've got a show where you talk

1019
00:41:13,789 --> 00:41:10,770
for two hours you know two people relax

1020
00:41:15,620 --> 00:41:13,799
talking no advertising right mmm and

1021
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:15,630
this kind of conversation

1022
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:19,410
this is human interaction but I mean if

1023
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:21,450
you watch this crazy mainstream TV what

1024
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:23,609
do they talk for like 30 seconds ya know

1025
00:41:26,510 --> 00:41:25,170
literally was it like the maximum

1026
00:41:26,990 --> 00:41:26,520
they'll talk for it maybe you like five

1027
00:41:29,630 --> 00:41:27,000
minutes

1028
00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:29,640
mm-hmm a and it's full of advertising

1029
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:30,960
and they're always trying to sell you

1030
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:31,520
something

1031
00:41:36,589 --> 00:41:35,130
with the advertising and then they're

1032
00:41:38,750 --> 00:41:36,599
selling you an agenda with what they're

1033
00:41:40,990 --> 00:41:38,760
saying this kind of thing we're doing

1034
00:41:43,570 --> 00:41:41,000
here I think this sort of action

1035
00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:43,580
all of this together we can definitely

1036
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:46,880
change I would just tell people focus on

1037
00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:49,570
the money issue when people understand

1038
00:41:56,260 --> 00:41:54,560
the scam that is modern banking and if

1039
00:41:58,270 --> 00:41:56,270
just everyone went to the bank just said

1040
00:42:01,720 --> 00:41:58,280
you know I know what you guys are doing

1041
00:42:03,310 --> 00:42:01,730
and it's a scam and one day there's

1042
00:42:05,350 --> 00:42:03,320
gonna be enough of us and we're gonna

1043
00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:05,360
end it we're not gonna hurt anybody

1044
00:42:09,610 --> 00:42:07,910
we're not gonna do anything violent but

1045
00:42:11,740 --> 00:42:09,620
we're gonna end this system and end this

1046
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:11,750
slavery if you said that every time you

1047
00:42:17,020 --> 00:42:14,450
went to the bank and I try and do it I

1048
00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:17,030
really try to do it I point it out if we

1049
00:42:21,970 --> 00:42:19,760
all do that and wake enough people up

1050
00:42:23,500 --> 00:42:21,980
one day there'll be enough of us and it

1051
00:42:26,500 --> 00:42:23,510
doesn't have to be fifty percent of us

1052
00:42:29,590 --> 00:42:26,510
ten to fifteen remember eighty percent

1053
00:42:31,390 --> 00:42:29,600
of people just follow so it's that

1054
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:31,400
twenty percent of us can wake up to a

1055
00:42:37,180 --> 00:42:34,250
certain concrete things that we all can

1056
00:42:40,090 --> 00:42:37,190
agree upon right I think you could take

1057
00:42:43,030 --> 00:42:40,100
the very progressive left the very far

1058
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:43,040
right one thing we can all agree on is

1059
00:42:47,770 --> 00:42:46,010
and the banking scam so imagine we just

1060
00:42:50,170 --> 00:42:47,780
said all right a lot of stuff we

1061
00:42:52,450 --> 00:42:50,180
disagree on but what can we agree on

1062
00:42:55,210 --> 00:42:52,460
Foreign Wars I think we've had enough of

1063
00:42:57,220 --> 00:42:55,220
those income tax I think we're kind of

1064
00:42:59,290 --> 00:42:57,230
sick of that which is paying for all

1065
00:43:01,300 --> 00:42:59,300
these Foreign Wars right in the banking

1066
00:43:03,250 --> 00:43:01,310
system let's just agree on those three

1067
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:03,260
things and let's make that change and

1068
00:43:08,710 --> 00:43:05,510
once we've made that change all within a

1069
00:43:10,420 --> 00:43:08,720
constitution right no revolutions then

1070
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:10,430
we can start fighting about you know

1071
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:12,770
gender identities and he's and cheese

1072
00:43:20,290 --> 00:43:16,370
and whatever no mm-hmm there's a lot we

1073
00:43:23,230 --> 00:43:20,300
can agree on I agree and it's just funny

1074
00:43:25,450 --> 00:43:23,240
because in another sense it's like your

1075
00:43:28,510 --> 00:43:25,460
level of outrage or an individual's

1076
00:43:31,090 --> 00:43:28,520
level of outrage doesn't really affect

1077
00:43:33,610 --> 00:43:31,100
the actual actions and abuses of the

1078
00:43:36,010 --> 00:43:33,620
Empire it just makes you feel morally

1079
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:36,020
superior and it doesn't really do

1080
00:43:39,790 --> 00:43:37,850
anything but pat yourself on the back as

1081
00:43:41,380 --> 00:43:39,800
oh I hate what they're doing well

1082
00:43:43,260 --> 00:43:41,390
they're still doing it you know it

1083
00:43:46,410 --> 00:43:43,270
doesn't really matter you can maybe

1084
00:43:49,750 --> 00:43:46,420
graduate from that type of thinking and

1085
00:43:53,710 --> 00:43:49,760
do something more creative or be a more

1086
00:43:54,730 --> 00:43:53,720
subtle agent for the good like by doing

1087
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:54,740
the kind of things that

1088
00:43:58,240 --> 00:43:56,090
are talking about it's a lot more

1089
00:44:00,820 --> 00:43:58,250
productive than standing on the street

1090
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:00,830
corner with a protest sign for example

1091
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:03,290
oh it's virtually absolutely most of

1092
00:44:07,870 --> 00:44:06,050
what you hear in the conspiracy world in

1093
00:44:10,090 --> 00:44:07,880
a Nagato STUV it's just [\h__\h] and

1094
00:44:12,100 --> 00:44:10,100
virtue signaling you know I mean it's I

1095
00:44:16,060 --> 00:44:12,110
remember a couple years ago I created

1096
00:44:18,970 --> 00:44:16,070
this manifesto to just stop we'd pick a

1097
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:18,980
date say three months from now and we'd

1098
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:21,530
have a meme an internet meme and on this

1099
00:44:26,530 --> 00:44:24,770
date everyone is gonna stop we're gonna

1100
00:44:30,130 --> 00:44:26,540
stop using the banking system we're

1101
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:30,140
gonna take our cash pay off the electric

1102
00:44:33,510 --> 00:44:32,570
bill in whatever for three months we're

1103
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:33,520
just going to do everything with cash

1104
00:44:39,990 --> 00:44:36,170
just cash and we're to stop paying taxes

1105
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:40,000
and stop servicing debt nobody responded

1106
00:44:45,910 --> 00:44:44,050
Sato's Bonacci responded the only guy I

1107
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:45,920
mean he may be out there for the guy's

1108
00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:49,850
got a solid pair that much so what I

1109
00:44:53,710 --> 00:44:51,920
mean is how many people really want to

1110
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:53,720
do something I don't think many people

1111
00:44:58,060 --> 00:44:56,090
want to do anything because I'm tired of

1112
00:45:01,240 --> 00:44:58,070
hearing all about this and about that

1113
00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:01,250
there are things we can do there are

1114
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:02,960
things we can do and that we can all

1115
00:45:07,810 --> 00:45:05,930
agree upon but nobody wants to do it

1116
00:45:10,750 --> 00:45:07,820
it's much more fun to sit about and moan

1117
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:10,760
about mm-hmm it's time for action it

1118
00:45:14,109 --> 00:45:12,290
really is time for action on a certain

1119
00:45:16,510 --> 00:45:14,119
level we can create a more just society

1120
00:45:18,099 --> 00:45:16,520
where I could create utopia but we can

1121
00:45:19,930 --> 00:45:18,109
create a more just society if we just

1122
00:45:23,710 --> 00:45:19,940
act and I think the time has come to act

1123
00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:23,720
hmm amen and so I've also heard you say

1124
00:45:29,260 --> 00:45:26,720
that in these times we desperately need

1125
00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:29,270
a new myth can you elaborate on that and

1126
00:45:33,609 --> 00:45:31,280
what do you think a productive new myth

1127
00:45:35,500 --> 00:45:33,619
might look like oh my god we are so

1128
00:45:37,510 --> 00:45:35,510
desperate for a new myth you know I've

1129
00:45:39,250 --> 00:45:37,520
seen this culture conference in Berlin

1130
00:45:41,650 --> 00:45:39,260
this weekend was fascinating

1131
00:45:43,540 --> 00:45:41,660
Berlin is just an amazing City it's got

1132
00:45:45,430 --> 00:45:43,550
a great vibe and all of these young

1133
00:45:46,150 --> 00:45:45,440
people came to hear speakers you know on

1134
00:45:48,940 --> 00:45:46,160
the Tero

1135
00:45:53,349 --> 00:45:48,950
on magic on all sorts of stuff they were

1136
00:45:55,900 --> 00:45:53,359
so hungry I mean we need a new myth

1137
00:45:58,660 --> 00:45:55,910
because the old myths are dead the

1138
00:46:00,880 --> 00:45:58,670
Christian myth unfortunately has stopped

1139
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:00,890
functioning in Western society that was

1140
00:46:06,940 --> 00:46:03,770
the major spiritual myth it stopped

1141
00:46:08,590 --> 00:46:06,950
working so we need a new myth and that's

1142
00:46:12,510 --> 00:46:08,600
one of the reasons I made this film

1143
00:46:16,450 --> 00:46:12,520
because the taro goes back to something

1144
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:16,460
very deep in our past and what I mean

1145
00:46:19,330 --> 00:46:17,810
deep in our past I'm not talking about

1146
00:46:24,070 --> 00:46:19,340
you know oh it's from Egypt or something

1147
00:46:28,030 --> 00:46:24,080
no these are archetypical ways to awaken

1148
00:46:30,190 --> 00:46:28,040
to our spiritual self and I'm convinced

1149
00:46:33,070 --> 00:46:30,200
I'm convinced of this I mean I can't

1150
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:33,080
prove it but I think if you watch my

1151
00:46:38,260 --> 00:46:36,290
film you'll see that not only are these

1152
00:46:39,970 --> 00:46:38,270
powerful archetypes but there is a way

1153
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:39,980
and I'm not saying this only in the

1154
00:46:43,900 --> 00:46:42,170
Tarot of course there's many ways that's

1155
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:43,910
why I think Buddhism has become so

1156
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:47,330
popular even yoga you know I mean a lot

1157
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:49,610
of people Bosch yoga but the wonderful

1158
00:46:54,730 --> 00:46:51,290
thing of that yoga I think has brought

1159
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:54,740
to our the West is that people at least

1160
00:46:59,080 --> 00:46:57,650
begin to meditate you know the quiet

1161
00:47:02,110 --> 00:46:59,090
their mind and see that there is

1162
00:47:04,540 --> 00:47:02,120
something else there so yeah we need a

1163
00:47:05,980 --> 00:47:04,550
new myth we definitely need a new myth

1164
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:05,990
and that's a really interesting topic

1165
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:09,050
when you look at that period I think

1166
00:47:14,700 --> 00:47:11,450
between nineteen the mid 90s and the

1167
00:47:17,590 --> 00:47:14,710
early 2000s something happened

1168
00:47:20,710 --> 00:47:17,600
culturally you could see it in films no

1169
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:20,720
films like The Matrix and Fight Club The

1170
00:47:25,590 --> 00:47:23,330
Truman Show all these types of films and

1171
00:47:28,690 --> 00:47:25,600
then of course you have 9/11 and

1172
00:47:33,310 --> 00:47:28,700
something weird happened there and I see

1173
00:47:36,550 --> 00:47:33,320
a new myth emerging mmm exactly what it

1174
00:47:39,580 --> 00:47:36,560
is I don't know because remember you

1175
00:47:42,190 --> 00:47:39,590
don't make myths myths are always there

1176
00:47:44,290 --> 00:47:42,200
they're like archetypes they just kind

1177
00:47:46,180 --> 00:47:44,300
of emerge again it's like a beautiful

1178
00:47:47,710 --> 00:47:46,190
woman who goes to change his clothes she

1179
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:47,720
comes back you know you never know what

1180
00:47:52,570 --> 00:47:50,690
she's gonna be wearing hmm and that's a

1181
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:52,580
little bit what a myth is like so we

1182
00:47:56,050 --> 00:47:54,050
don't know exactly what it is but I do

1183
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:56,060
see something emerging now but that's

1184
00:48:02,110 --> 00:47:58,130
why there's so much confusion because

1185
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:02,120
myths give meaning science is great but

1186
00:48:07,780 --> 00:48:04,970
it's meaningless and we've been in this

1187
00:48:11,230 --> 00:48:07,790
void now for I would say a pretty long

1188
00:48:13,570 --> 00:48:11,240
time maybe a couple hundred years hmm

1189
00:48:15,490 --> 00:48:13,580
yeah you know it all makes me think of

1190
00:48:17,290 --> 00:48:15,500
an old Alan Watts lecture that I used to

1191
00:48:19,060 --> 00:48:17,300
like a lot where he says if the game

1192
00:48:19,630 --> 00:48:19,070
isn't worth the candle just kill

1193
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:19,640
yourself

1194
00:48:21,970 --> 00:48:21,200
meaning like if you aren't doing

1195
00:48:24,670 --> 00:48:21,980
anything

1196
00:48:27,250 --> 00:48:24,680
productive or you're unhappy living a

1197
00:48:29,349 --> 00:48:27,260
life stuck in some [\h__\h] job or you're

1198
00:48:31,900 --> 00:48:29,359
just not on the right path I mean why

1199
00:48:33,490 --> 00:48:31,910
drag it all out why even feel compelled

1200
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:33,500
to go on and of course the underlying

1201
00:48:36,970 --> 00:48:34,970
meaning of what he's really saying is

1202
00:48:40,780 --> 00:48:36,980
make the game worth the candle make your

1203
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:40,790
life worth living and adopting a proper

1204
00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:42,890
worldview or hanging your hat on a

1205
00:48:48,190 --> 00:48:45,440
better myth per se is actually a big

1206
00:48:50,770 --> 00:48:48,200
part of your mental health and life

1207
00:48:53,859 --> 00:48:50,780
direction and you probably should put

1208
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:53,869
some attention into what you want to

1209
00:48:59,320 --> 00:48:56,810
fill that space in your head yeah and

1210
00:49:01,720 --> 00:48:59,330
it's the problem is that people in our

1211
00:49:04,780 --> 00:49:01,730
society we want everything kind of easy

1212
00:49:07,090 --> 00:49:04,790
and we want it quick and this path is

1213
00:49:08,410 --> 00:49:07,100
not easy and well I mean maybe for some

1214
00:49:11,650 --> 00:49:08,420
people I'm not saying that there's not

1215
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:11,660
some salons out there but in general you

1216
00:49:16,210 --> 00:49:13,490
know it's something that takes a long

1217
00:49:17,590 --> 00:49:16,220
time to decompress I mean I used to be

1218
00:49:19,570 --> 00:49:17,600
in the advertising world you know I

1219
00:49:22,420 --> 00:49:19,580
lived in Manhattan it's making good

1220
00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:22,430
money my brain to get out of that

1221
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:24,800
literally just to get out of that

1222
00:49:30,970 --> 00:49:27,650
mindset took me a couple of years it

1223
00:49:33,330 --> 00:49:30,980
wasn't easy so you know it's a long path

1224
00:49:36,609 --> 00:49:33,340
and remember if we go back to the Tarot

1225
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:36,619
you know the tower card that's the

1226
00:49:40,750 --> 00:49:38,810
spiritual level that lasts those last

1227
00:49:44,740 --> 00:49:40,760
seven cards the devil's there to protect

1228
00:49:48,310 --> 00:49:44,750
that path whatever the ego still really

1229
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:48,320
stuck to the devil's gonna point it out

1230
00:49:52,570 --> 00:49:51,050
he's gonna pull on those hooks and then

1231
00:49:54,550 --> 00:49:52,580
you get to the tower card where it all

1232
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:54,560
collapses the dark night of the soul

1233
00:49:58,750 --> 00:49:57,410
everything you believed is wrong mm-hmm

1234
00:50:01,990 --> 00:49:58,760
you have to kind of lose your

1235
00:50:03,580 --> 00:50:02,000
attachments yeah things have to die I

1236
00:50:05,260 --> 00:50:03,590
mean think about that sequence of cards

1237
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:05,270
I mean it's a beautiful sequence from

1238
00:50:09,310 --> 00:50:07,609
the hangman when you begin to see things

1239
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:09,320
a new way you see it upside down

1240
00:50:13,420 --> 00:50:11,290
remember the hangman he's upside down

1241
00:50:16,750 --> 00:50:13,430
but he has that globe

1242
00:50:23,020 --> 00:50:16,760
that's that red pill moment like oh wow

1243
00:50:25,570 --> 00:50:23,030
no and then your old self dies and then

1244
00:50:29,020 --> 00:50:25,580
you need temperance because you are in a

1245
00:50:30,700 --> 00:50:29,030
really delicate state there temperance

1246
00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:30,710
is that idea of staying grounded in the

1247
00:50:35,170 --> 00:50:32,510
film I used that moment when Mara

1248
00:50:35,950 --> 00:50:35,180
attempts Buddha with the women and

1249
00:50:37,900 --> 00:50:35,960
everything

1250
00:50:40,630 --> 00:50:37,910
what does Buddha do he touches the

1251
00:50:44,140 --> 00:50:40,640
ground that's the temperance card it's

1252
00:50:46,660 --> 00:50:44,150
the same exact concept you know by what

1253
00:50:48,070 --> 00:50:46,670
right or by what authority do you claim

1254
00:50:50,140 --> 00:50:48,080
you're enlightened and Buddha what does

1255
00:50:51,730 --> 00:50:50,150
he do he touches ground you got to stay

1256
00:50:53,349 --> 00:50:51,740
ground then you meet the devil

1257
00:50:55,630 --> 00:50:53,359
there's always something left you know

1258
00:51:00,700 --> 00:50:55,640
there's always one curly out there we

1259
00:51:03,460 --> 00:51:00,710
can't forget right and then you go to

1260
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:03,470
the towers where it all just collapses

1261
00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:05,450
and then you start to be born again the

1262
00:51:10,900 --> 00:51:08,510
star the luminaries know the star the

1263
00:51:12,550 --> 00:51:10,910
moon and finally the Sun so the cards

1264
00:51:14,109 --> 00:51:12,560
can really help you now I'm not saying

1265
00:51:16,270 --> 00:51:14,119
that some kind of religion or that it's

1266
00:51:18,670 --> 00:51:16,280
the only way of course not there are

1267
00:51:21,099 --> 00:51:18,680
many paths out there but for Western

1268
00:51:22,930 --> 00:51:21,109
people these are Western archetypes and

1269
00:51:24,099 --> 00:51:22,940
one thing I just you know a lot of

1270
00:51:26,470 --> 00:51:24,109
people you know the terror can be

1271
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:26,480
anything you want you know make your own

1272
00:51:32,740 --> 00:51:30,290
Tarot hmm you know it's like if you want

1273
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:32,750
to learn music learn to play it

1274
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:35,599
correctly learn to play it well then you

1275
00:51:40,450 --> 00:51:39,050
can begin to improvise or cooking you

1276
00:51:42,070 --> 00:51:40,460
know if you want to cook something well

1277
00:51:44,290 --> 00:51:42,080
you got to do it two or three times and

1278
00:51:46,750 --> 00:51:44,300
then once you know how to do it then you

1279
00:51:48,460 --> 00:51:46,760
can begin to play around but first no

1280
00:51:51,460 --> 00:51:48,470
these are real archetypes and they do

1281
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:51,470
mean something so learn the traditional

1282
00:51:57,609 --> 00:51:53,570
part then you can go off on the new

1283
00:51:59,680 --> 00:51:57,619
stuff well said and let me ask you this

1284
00:52:03,430 --> 00:51:59,690
- I didn't expect you but on the subject

1285
00:52:05,970 --> 00:52:03,440
of astrology I've gotten more into

1286
00:52:08,980 --> 00:52:05,980
paying attention to astrology on a

1287
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:08,990
weekly monthly basis and seeing where

1288
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:11,450
the planets are in the big cycles as

1289
00:52:16,750 --> 00:52:14,690
well as having a few readings of my own

1290
00:52:18,820 --> 00:52:16,760
chart done and obviously you get some

1291
00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:18,830
insight into yourself through doing that

1292
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:21,680
true but I'm having a hard time merging

1293
00:52:26,140 --> 00:52:23,690
the two when I'm reading what the

1294
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:26,150
planets are doing a lot of times they'll

1295
00:52:29,770 --> 00:52:28,010
write about the effects that it's going

1296
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:29,780
to have on the wider culture for

1297
00:52:35,230 --> 00:52:33,170
everyone but there's also a a micro

1298
00:52:38,500 --> 00:52:35,240
scale of how it affects you individually

1299
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:38,510
based on your own chart and those kind

1300
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:40,330
of things I'm having a hard time

1301
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:43,010
rectifying I mean how do we how do we do

1302
00:52:47,079 --> 00:52:45,170
that how do we if we know our own chart

1303
00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:47,089
well and we're looking at what's going

1304
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:49,760
to happen next month how do we interpret

1305
00:52:53,830 --> 00:52:51,610
correctly through the lens of our own

1306
00:52:56,590 --> 00:52:53,840
astrology yeah that's a fantastic

1307
00:52:58,900 --> 00:52:56,600
question so here's what I would do focus

1308
00:53:00,880 --> 00:52:58,910
on your own chart and remember the house

1309
00:53:03,610 --> 00:53:00,890
is extremely important so it's not just

1310
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:03,620
the sign it's the sign and it's the

1311
00:53:08,770 --> 00:53:06,770
house so look at the aspect to that

1312
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:08,780
house and where the planet is the

1313
00:53:14,740 --> 00:53:12,530
aspects to that planet and the rulership

1314
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:14,750
of that house are you familiar with the

1315
00:53:19,870 --> 00:53:17,690
ruler ships yeah a little bit but just

1316
00:53:20,890 --> 00:53:19,880
for people who aren't yeah like for

1317
00:53:24,420 --> 00:53:20,900
example let's just take an example

1318
00:53:28,660 --> 00:53:24,430
imagine you're in Aries okay I am okay

1319
00:53:32,230 --> 00:53:28,670
great yeah you're an Aries so your son

1320
00:53:37,150 --> 00:53:32,240
is in Aries right mm-hmm yes what house

1321
00:53:38,830 --> 00:53:37,160
is that in is it the ninth okay perfect

1322
00:53:43,060 --> 00:53:38,840
perfect so the great thing about having

1323
00:53:46,750 --> 00:53:43,070
the Sun in Aries right is the Sun is

1324
00:53:47,980 --> 00:53:46,760
exalted in Aries so it's a really good

1325
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:47,990
placement it gives you a lot of power

1326
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:49,130
there mm-hmm

1327
00:53:55,020 --> 00:53:52,010
so you always want to look at the planet

1328
00:53:57,420 --> 00:53:55,030
that rules that sign

1329
00:53:59,310 --> 00:53:57,430
and that house policeman look where that

1330
00:54:02,970 --> 00:53:59,320
planet is what kind of aspects it's

1331
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:02,980
making you know the angles to it mm-hmm

1332
00:54:06,930 --> 00:54:05,410
so you want to get a feel for what's

1333
00:54:08,610 --> 00:54:06,940
going on in that house

1334
00:54:11,250 --> 00:54:08,620
that's the way I do it so I take a house

1335
00:54:13,890 --> 00:54:11,260
let's take the 9th house right so right

1336
00:54:16,380 --> 00:54:13,900
now what planets are in Aries right now

1337
00:54:17,820 --> 00:54:16,390
I don't pay a lot attention to areas

1338
00:54:19,590 --> 00:54:17,830
because I don't have anything going on

1339
00:54:21,830 --> 00:54:19,600
airs but whatever but if you take the

1340
00:54:26,050 --> 00:54:21,840
ninth house which is a house related to

1341
00:54:28,630 --> 00:54:26,060
philosophy learning travel

1342
00:54:32,050 --> 00:54:28,640
if you have a planet that's moving into

1343
00:54:34,210 --> 00:54:32,060
the ninth house moving into Aries it's

1344
00:54:38,020 --> 00:54:34,220
gonna affect those areas of your life

1345
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:38,030
and just remember the Sun rules Aries so

1346
00:54:42,010 --> 00:54:39,770
whatever aspect is so the sons of

1347
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:42,020
Scorpio right that aspect between

1348
00:54:47,670 --> 00:54:44,480
Scorpio in Aries you want to kind of

1349
00:54:51,250 --> 00:54:47,680
look at that angle to that plays a role

1350
00:54:54,310 --> 00:54:51,260
you know astrology is difficult like for

1351
00:54:56,510 --> 00:54:54,320
example one I do a chart it takes me at

1352
00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:56,520
least three days

1353
00:54:59,839 --> 00:54:58,170
if I do a reading someone will give me

1354
00:55:02,750 --> 00:54:59,849
their info I come up with the chart I

1355
00:55:05,270 --> 00:55:02,760
have a system of numbering and scoring

1356
00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:05,280
that I do then I look at it again the

1357
00:55:09,589 --> 00:55:07,680
second day and then the third day I look

1358
00:55:12,829 --> 00:55:09,599
at the aspects so it takes me about

1359
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:12,839
three days to get a real feel for the

1360
00:55:20,510 --> 00:55:16,290
chart and then I do the reading that's

1361
00:55:22,970 --> 00:55:20,520
why I say the Tarot is much simpler it

1362
00:55:26,329 --> 00:55:22,980
took me years before I can make a birth

1363
00:55:28,820 --> 00:55:26,339
chart kind of saying you know it took a

1364
00:55:31,310 --> 00:55:28,830
long time but with Tarot I was able to

1365
00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:31,320
do tarot readings within a year where I

1366
00:55:35,690 --> 00:55:32,880
thought well you know I wasn't a great

1367
00:55:38,660 --> 00:55:35,700
tarot reader a year but I could get a

1368
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:38,670
reasonable feel for it mm-hmm so that's

1369
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:41,490
why I would really tell folks focus on

1370
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:42,930
the Tarot it's a great way to kind of

1371
00:55:48,530 --> 00:55:45,210
get into this world so hold on I just

1372
00:55:51,710 --> 00:55:48,540
pulled up what's going on in Aries right

1373
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:51,720
now ah exactly you've got uranus pop

1374
00:55:56,260 --> 00:55:53,970
backed in the Aries right mm-hmm so

1375
00:55:58,579 --> 00:55:56,270
you've got your ensign Aries now and

1376
00:56:00,530 --> 00:55:58,589
casually the moon's there but the moons

1377
00:56:03,020 --> 00:56:00,540
are just for a couple days but that idea

1378
00:56:05,359 --> 00:56:03,030
of having Uranus in Aries going back

1379
00:56:07,970 --> 00:56:05,369
into your ninth house that's kind of

1380
00:56:11,660 --> 00:56:07,980
interesting for you because on the big

1381
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:11,670
level right all people who are Aries

1382
00:56:14,900 --> 00:56:13,650
sons have Uranus in Aries right so it's

1383
00:56:17,810 --> 00:56:14,910
affecting a whole generation of people

1384
00:56:20,030 --> 00:56:17,820
no mm-hmm but for you specifically it's

1385
00:56:22,550 --> 00:56:20,040
in that area of learning so there might

1386
00:56:24,740 --> 00:56:22,560
be something that you were trying to

1387
00:56:27,410 --> 00:56:24,750
learn or something that you were trying

1388
00:56:30,290 --> 00:56:27,420
to get a grasp of that you almost got

1389
00:56:32,780 --> 00:56:30,300
and now you're sort of revisiting it or

1390
00:56:34,099 --> 00:56:32,790
you're getting a second taste that would

1391
00:56:36,079 --> 00:56:34,109
be a way to look at Aries a little bit

1392
00:56:37,970 --> 00:56:36,089
of what's going on were you in the ninth

1393
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:37,980
house mmm that's why it's important when

1394
00:56:42,109 --> 00:56:39,330
you're looking at your chart really

1395
00:56:44,150 --> 00:56:42,119
focus on the house right on interesting

1396
00:56:46,490 --> 00:56:44,160
so yeah I mean of course Tarot and

1397
00:56:48,890 --> 00:56:46,500
astrology would fit that bill of

1398
00:56:52,460 --> 00:56:48,900
something that I'm read I jest in as we

1399
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:52,470
speak literally yeah and yes you

1400
00:56:56,930 --> 00:56:54,810
mentioned the moon as I was looking at

1401
00:56:59,329 --> 00:56:56,940
this astrological calendar I have that

1402
00:57:01,550 --> 00:56:59,339
is what it is is it's mapping the moon

1403
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:01,560
going through each sign because it does

1404
00:57:07,130 --> 00:57:04,410
change every couple of days and is there

1405
00:57:10,070 --> 00:57:07,140
what the aspects of the moon is it's the

1406
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:10,080
inner self right is that correct

1407
00:57:15,710 --> 00:57:12,330
yeah when I look at the moon in a birth

1408
00:57:19,010 --> 00:57:15,720
chart it's a little bit where the heart

1409
00:57:21,050 --> 00:57:19,020
is so when you look at the Sun it's kind

1410
00:57:23,660 --> 00:57:21,060
of the spirit the moon is a little bit

1411
00:57:26,359 --> 00:57:23,670
the psyche in the ascendant as the body

1412
00:57:27,830 --> 00:57:26,369
again we go back to the threes yeah but

1413
00:57:29,090 --> 00:57:27,840
when you look at a chart when you find

1414
00:57:31,250 --> 00:57:29,100
the mood like for example I have a

1415
00:57:34,460 --> 00:57:31,260
friend of mine she's got the moon and

1416
00:57:36,140 --> 00:57:34,470
scorpion in the fifth house and those

1417
00:57:41,210 --> 00:57:36,150
astrologers out there know you know

1418
00:57:43,609 --> 00:57:41,220
that's an interesting placement so what

1419
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:43,619
I mean is the moon is a little bit where

1420
00:57:47,390 --> 00:57:45,450
your hearts gonna be okay it's a little

1421
00:57:49,010 --> 00:57:47,400
bit where your passions gonna be it's

1422
00:57:51,590 --> 00:57:49,020
important because if you're doing

1423
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:51,600
something you hate when people come to

1424
00:57:55,070 --> 00:57:53,490
me and they said god I hate my job or

1425
00:57:58,070 --> 00:57:55,080
something I have to look at their moon

1426
00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:58,080
placement it gives me an idea but you

1427
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:00,000
know the one thing if I could just give

1428
00:58:06,830 --> 00:58:04,050
people one piece of information about

1429
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:06,840
astrology that has always worked for me

1430
00:58:11,359 --> 00:58:09,210
if I can only look at one thing on a

1431
00:58:14,359 --> 00:58:11,369
chart you know what I would look at the

1432
00:58:20,270 --> 00:58:14,369
nodes the North node the node of the

1433
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:20,280
moon where the note is that is your life

1434
00:58:24,430 --> 00:58:22,530
path like for example do you have your

1435
00:58:27,740 --> 00:58:24,440
chart up I do actually

1436
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:27,750
where is your node it's that little it's

1437
00:58:34,580 --> 00:58:30,930
like a horseshoe the North node is in

1438
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:34,590
the 10th house ah interesting and in

1439
00:58:40,310 --> 00:58:37,770
what sign for us right yes

1440
00:58:42,710 --> 00:58:40,320
Taurus that's the tourist sign now this

1441
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:42,720
is really interesting for you the 10th

1442
00:58:48,170 --> 00:58:46,170
house this is the life direction okay so

1443
00:58:50,330 --> 00:58:48,180
the nodes were the head of the Dragon

1444
00:58:52,910 --> 00:58:50,340
and the tail of the dragon so for

1445
00:58:58,250 --> 00:58:52,920
someone like you your connection to

1446
00:59:01,390 --> 00:58:58,260
family you have a tendency to go to the

1447
00:59:04,550 --> 00:59:01,400
home life the family life your origins

1448
00:59:07,250 --> 00:59:04,560
that's sort of like where you're pulled

1449
00:59:09,670 --> 00:59:07,260
to but your destiny is the public life

1450
00:59:14,090 --> 00:59:09,680
the 10th house you need to be out there

1451
00:59:17,300 --> 00:59:14,100
hmm so you've got to be careful if you

1452
00:59:21,710 --> 00:59:17,310
have a choice between the home the

1453
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:21,720
family your roots your origins or the

1454
00:59:24,770 --> 00:59:23,490
public life

1455
00:59:27,530 --> 00:59:24,780
there's gonna be a part of you that

1456
00:59:30,500 --> 00:59:27,540
wants to go to the easy place which is

1457
00:59:33,260 --> 00:59:30,510
home push yourself out there you belong

1458
00:59:36,530 --> 00:59:33,270
out in the world the tenth house is your

1459
00:59:38,900 --> 00:59:36,540
public cell hmm and that's why what

1460
00:59:40,330 --> 00:59:38,910
you're doing now that's why it's working

1461
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:40,340
because that's what you should be doing

1462
00:59:45,530 --> 00:59:43,290
if you are like busting your nut and sub

1463
00:59:49,490 --> 00:59:45,540
job that you hated supporting the family

1464
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:49,500
you'd be absolutely miserable yes but

1465
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:52,290
being out there in public that's where

1466
00:59:56,110 --> 00:59:54,330
you're gonna thrive and if you thrive

1467
00:59:58,610 --> 00:59:56,120
you'll figure out a way to pay the bills

1468
01:00:00,200 --> 00:59:58,620
hmm see that's so fascinating man

1469
01:00:03,500 --> 01:00:00,210
because anyone is listened to the show

1470
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:03,510
knows that part of what I struggle with

1471
01:00:08,570 --> 01:00:05,810
now is balancing this emergence as a

1472
01:00:12,290 --> 01:00:08,580
public figure through the podcast versus

1473
01:00:14,420 --> 01:00:12,300
my tendency to Herm it up and not post

1474
01:00:16,580 --> 01:00:14,430
on social media not engage with the

1475
01:00:21,110 --> 01:00:16,590
digital stage in which I'm on and

1476
01:00:23,060 --> 01:00:21,120
whenever I am faced with some kind of I

1477
01:00:25,550 --> 01:00:23,070
don't even want to say criticism because

1478
01:00:28,220 --> 01:00:25,560
I can take that but some type of creepy

1479
01:00:31,340 --> 01:00:28,230
behavior I have a tendency to just shut

1480
01:00:33,620 --> 01:00:31,350
down all that kind of communication with

1481
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:33,630
the public and re-establish a barrier

1482
01:00:38,660 --> 01:00:35,610
and just kind of sit around the house

1483
01:00:40,670 --> 01:00:38,670
and balancing that out that duality is

1484
01:00:43,130 --> 01:00:40,680
definitely at the forefront of my mind

1485
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:43,140
so to pick up specifically on that I

1486
01:00:46,820 --> 01:00:44,850
think anyone who's listened to like my

1487
01:00:48,410 --> 01:00:46,830
rap ups in the show you know that's

1488
01:00:50,450 --> 01:00:48,420
already on the public record and you

1489
01:00:52,220 --> 01:00:50,460
basically just highlighted it right

1490
01:00:54,530 --> 01:00:52,230
there so I think that's an interesting

1491
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:54,540
example yeah and I would highly

1492
01:00:58,700 --> 01:00:56,370
recommend folks even if you don't know

1493
01:01:03,530 --> 01:00:58,710
much about astrology just go to Astro

1494
01:01:05,990 --> 01:01:03,540
comm popping your info use whole signs

1495
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:06,000
it's just much easier I mean later on

1496
01:01:09,860 --> 01:01:07,770
you can change but if you're not an

1497
01:01:12,980 --> 01:01:09,870
expert it just makes it simpler and just

1498
01:01:15,890 --> 01:01:12,990
look where your North node is the house

1499
01:01:18,170 --> 01:01:15,900
placement is crucial and of course here

1500
01:01:19,070 --> 01:01:18,180
the sign is kind of generational no

1501
01:01:21,410 --> 01:01:19,080
mm-hmm

1502
01:01:23,900 --> 01:01:21,420
everyone born a couple years around you

1503
01:01:26,270 --> 01:01:23,910
has the north node and Taurus right but

1504
01:01:28,940 --> 01:01:26,280
the house placement is specific to you

1505
01:01:31,670 --> 01:01:28,950
so really look at the house placement

1506
01:01:33,380 --> 01:01:31,680
and that can help you so much it's

1507
01:01:34,910 --> 01:01:33,390
amazing how many people come in for

1508
01:01:36,170 --> 01:01:34,920
readings and I focus so much on the

1509
01:01:38,630 --> 01:01:36,180
North node and it really helps

1510
01:01:41,990 --> 01:01:38,640
because it shows that dynamic in your

1511
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:42,000
life and which way you want to go is

1512
01:01:46,430 --> 01:01:44,250
usually to the South node but the way

1513
01:01:47,539 --> 01:01:46,440
you should go you know those things in

1514
01:01:49,069 --> 01:01:47,549
life you don't want to do you but you

1515
01:01:51,650 --> 01:01:49,079
push yourself and you're like damn I'm

1516
01:01:53,809 --> 01:01:51,660
glad I push myself right that's a North

1517
01:01:56,420 --> 01:01:53,819
node it can really help you Wow

1518
01:01:58,760 --> 01:01:56,430
that's insightful man I really do like

1519
01:02:01,279 --> 01:01:58,770
that I hope a lot of people do take that

1520
01:02:02,510 --> 01:02:01,289
one simple step and also find that kind

1521
01:02:05,900 --> 01:02:02,520
of insight that applies to them

1522
01:02:08,150 --> 01:02:05,910
personally so I appreciate that and man

1523
01:02:10,490 --> 01:02:08,160
it's gonna be that time but this has

1524
01:02:13,609 --> 01:02:10,500
been a lot of fun I really did again

1525
01:02:15,529 --> 01:02:13,619
liked the 21 phases of God I think

1526
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:15,539
everyone should give it a watch I also

1527
01:02:19,609 --> 01:02:17,250
liked several of the articles on your

1528
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:19,619
site that I have checked out but do

1529
01:02:22,970 --> 01:02:21,690
remind them of the work you'd like them

1530
01:02:25,519 --> 01:02:22,980
to check out and anything else you're

1531
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:25,529
gonna be working on in the future so the

1532
01:02:30,349 --> 01:02:27,690
main thing now is the 21 phases of god

1533
01:02:31,339 --> 01:02:30,359
in long form it's two hours and 40

1534
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:31,349
minutes you can watch something long

1535
01:02:37,430 --> 01:02:33,930
form and I broke it up into 27 parts and

1536
01:02:39,890 --> 01:02:37,440
we have subtitles in Spanish Russian and

1537
01:02:41,150 --> 01:02:39,900
Chinese so if you've got any friends you

1538
01:02:42,829 --> 01:02:41,160
know who don't speak English but speak

1539
01:02:44,569 --> 01:02:42,839
one of those languages I've got the

1540
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:44,579
subtitles in and they're not just Google

1541
01:02:49,430 --> 01:02:46,650
subtitles they're actually curated

1542
01:02:51,529 --> 01:02:49,440
subtitles it's been a big project so you

1543
01:02:53,329 --> 01:02:51,539
just go to youtube just pop in the 21

1544
01:02:55,819 --> 01:02:53,339
faces of god you'll see the channel so

1545
01:02:58,970 --> 01:02:55,829
you can see the serialized version or

1546
01:03:00,559 --> 01:02:58,980
the long-form version my websites the

1547
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:00,569
cactus land you know there's some

1548
01:03:07,250 --> 01:03:03,650
articles on that and I have three novels

1549
01:03:09,260 --> 01:03:07,260
Twilight breakouts more literary cactus

1550
01:03:12,210 --> 01:03:09,270
land is I think kind of my most

1551
01:03:14,220 --> 01:03:12,220
interesting novel it's a dystopian novel

1552
01:03:16,140 --> 01:03:14,230
I'd like that novel I think it holds up

1553
01:03:18,570 --> 01:03:16,150
and then my latest novel was more

1554
01:03:21,300 --> 01:03:18,580
esoteric which also follows the

1555
01:03:22,859 --> 01:03:21,310
narrative arc of the Tarot it's so

1556
01:03:24,839 --> 01:03:22,869
you're loving and complete so I've got

1557
01:03:27,270 --> 01:03:24,849
three novels they're free on Smashwords

1558
01:03:27,990 --> 01:03:27,280
so it's all free nothing for sale so all

1559
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:28,000
out there for you guys

1560
01:03:34,740 --> 01:03:32,170
Wow very cool Robert you're the man

1561
01:03:37,589 --> 01:03:34,750
clearly you know a lot about this stuff

1562
01:03:39,150 --> 01:03:37,599
and I appreciate you dishing it out for

1563
01:03:39,630 --> 01:03:39,160
us keep doing what you do and take care

1564
01:03:41,670 --> 01:03:39,640
out there

1565
01:03:43,730 --> 01:03:41,680
thanks a lot Gregory appreciate it man

1566
01:03:47,780 --> 01:03:43,740
you got it

1567
01:03:51,450 --> 01:03:47,790
sweet lady Sabrina folks Robert Bonomo

1568
01:03:54,359 --> 01:03:51,460
21 phases of the big G OD archetypes

1569
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:54,369
archons Tarot the money spell and those

1570
01:04:00,089 --> 01:03:57,970
lyin banksters I gotta say I did enjoy

1571
01:04:02,070 --> 01:04:00,099
this one a lot I think archetypes do

1572
01:04:03,990 --> 01:04:02,080
deserve a conversation now and again

1573
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:04,000
especially when we can relate them to

1574
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:06,010
what's currently going on in the world I

1575
01:04:10,589 --> 01:04:08,410
know I had said this in the last wrap-up

1576
01:04:12,930 --> 01:04:10,599
that we were going to segue back into

1577
01:04:15,359 --> 01:04:12,940
some practical down-to-earth conspiracy

1578
01:04:18,030 --> 01:04:15,369
stuff and this episode I think was a

1579
01:04:20,700 --> 01:04:18,040
good bridge to get us there because we

1580
01:04:23,550 --> 01:04:20,710
talked about both sides of the coin and

1581
01:04:26,099 --> 01:04:23,560
it tied in to a lot of things that the

1582
01:04:27,150 --> 01:04:26,109
more esoteric we focused guests have

1583
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:27,160
been saying lately

1584
01:04:34,980 --> 01:04:30,490
and because the production line of THC

1585
01:04:36,270 --> 01:04:34,990
episodes is kind of long oftentimes the

1586
01:04:38,579 --> 01:04:36,280
things I'm talking about will take a

1587
01:04:41,940 --> 01:04:38,589
couple episodes to manifest because

1588
01:04:44,250 --> 01:04:41,950
there are things on that conveyor belt

1589
01:04:45,690 --> 01:04:44,260
that have yet to come out it's all that

1590
01:04:48,750 --> 01:04:45,700
editing all that editing that other

1591
01:04:51,089 --> 01:04:48,760
shows won't do taking up your sweet time

1592
01:04:53,670 --> 01:04:51,099
but hey I'm looking at December and

1593
01:04:55,829 --> 01:04:53,680
while the next show is actually about

1594
01:04:57,450 --> 01:04:55,839
current events as rituals which i think

1595
01:04:59,970 --> 01:04:57,460
is really our sweet spot one of my

1596
01:05:02,640 --> 01:04:59,980
favorite topics I'm also looking at at

1597
01:05:04,349 --> 01:05:02,650
least three shows where magic probably

1598
01:05:08,730 --> 01:05:04,359
won't come up at all it'd be weird if it

1599
01:05:10,670 --> 01:05:08,740
did and I think Barry's even less so but

1600
01:05:13,079 --> 01:05:10,680
I like drifting back and forth and

1601
01:05:15,510 --> 01:05:13,089
lately trying to stay out of the

1602
01:05:17,849 --> 01:05:15,520
political but to really understand

1603
01:05:20,450 --> 01:05:17,859
archetypes on a deep level like I wish I

1604
01:05:23,910 --> 01:05:20,460
did even just a cursory understanding

1605
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:23,920
makes current events seem a lot less

1606
01:05:27,690 --> 01:05:25,930
potent or more like

1607
01:05:30,150 --> 01:05:27,700
the world is the stage and I do think

1608
01:05:32,220 --> 01:05:30,160
that helps us keep our footing when the

1609
01:05:34,500 --> 01:05:32,230
machine is so effective at tripping us

1610
01:05:37,650 --> 01:05:34,510
up it's got so much data to analyze it

1611
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:37,660
knows how the mind works we need to keep

1612
01:05:44,309 --> 01:05:39,730
a lot of the stuff Robert brought up in

1613
01:05:45,660 --> 01:05:44,319
our mental rolodex of references I also

1614
01:05:47,819 --> 01:05:45,670
just thought he was an easy guy to

1615
01:05:50,309 --> 01:05:47,829
listen to my editor thought he sounded

1616
01:05:52,529 --> 01:05:50,319
like Richard Dreyfuss and I couldn't put

1617
01:05:55,079 --> 01:05:52,539
my finger on it for a while but I think

1618
01:05:58,109 --> 01:05:55,089
I got it I believe he sounds like Walter

1619
01:06:00,809 --> 01:05:58,119
Bosley but recognizable I don't know

1620
01:06:03,750 --> 01:06:00,819
he's got one of those voices and pretty

1621
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:03,760
knowledgeable across the board - I was

1622
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:05,650
happy to take a couple of pokes at the

1623
01:06:10,890 --> 01:06:08,770
financial system talk arqon's a bit and

1624
01:06:13,230 --> 01:06:10,900
I also liked his description of the

1625
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:13,240
devil it's not unlike things we've heard

1626
01:06:17,519 --> 01:06:15,250
before but it's a good reminder that

1627
01:06:19,859 --> 01:06:17,529
even the villain has a role to play or

1628
01:06:21,870 --> 01:06:19,869
really just the function of [\h__\h] with

1629
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:21,880
you and pulling on your attachments it's

1630
01:06:25,799 --> 01:06:23,890
why every superhero says look woman I

1631
01:06:28,559 --> 01:06:25,809
love you but you got to get the hell out

1632
01:06:30,269 --> 01:06:28,569
of here because where I'm going they're

1633
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:30,279
gonna put you through hell just because

1634
01:06:35,370 --> 01:06:32,650
I love you and I'm pretty much a

1635
01:06:38,339 --> 01:06:35,380
bulletproof Tiger and it's not to make a

1636
01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:38,349
moral decree about attachments or say

1637
01:06:42,900 --> 01:06:40,089
they're bad or anything it's just a

1638
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:42,910
component of the play a plot device and

1639
01:06:48,599 --> 01:06:46,450
it calls into question what is true

1640
01:06:51,510 --> 01:06:48,609
freedom and independence from a certain

1641
01:06:54,569 --> 01:06:51,520
perspective raw freedom and independence

1642
01:06:57,569 --> 01:06:54,579
is too heavy of a burden to bear for a

1643
01:06:59,490 --> 01:06:57,579
lot of people never mind the fact that I

1644
01:07:01,380 --> 01:06:59,500
just successfully rambled my way through

1645
01:07:04,109 --> 01:07:01,390
a monologue built around going from lion

1646
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:04,119
to tiger to bear the point still stands

1647
01:07:08,490 --> 01:07:06,970
and I have all types of attachments and

1648
01:07:10,799 --> 01:07:08,500
weaknesses if you will

1649
01:07:13,500 --> 01:07:10,809
strings for which the devil to play me I

1650
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:13,510
am a STONER hippie housecat hypocrite

1651
01:07:18,420 --> 01:07:15,730
for the most part but I appreciate a

1652
01:07:21,210 --> 01:07:18,430
good warrior and what it takes to walk

1653
01:07:23,549 --> 01:07:21,220
that path and I also liked his

1654
01:07:25,529 --> 01:07:23,559
astrological analysis there at the end

1655
01:07:27,829 --> 01:07:25,539
that was pretty spot-on I really do see

1656
01:07:30,359 --> 01:07:27,839
myself in my birth chart quite a bit

1657
01:07:32,730 --> 01:07:30,369
maybe other people don't really feel the

1658
01:07:35,069 --> 01:07:32,740
same way about theirs I don't know but

1659
01:07:38,010 --> 01:07:35,079
I've talked vaguely about a rough summer

1660
01:07:39,450 --> 01:07:38,020
largely in regards to a semi-public life

1661
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:39,460
and just marinating

1662
01:07:45,060 --> 01:07:42,490
conspiracy waters like we do and my

1663
01:07:48,150 --> 01:07:45,070
tendency and choice to sort of recoil

1664
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:48,160
and herm it up so when you hear

1665
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:49,930
something from your birth chart that

1666
01:07:54,180 --> 01:07:52,570
actually is a reflection of a recent

1667
01:07:57,090 --> 01:07:54,190
mental tug-of-war

1668
01:07:59,790 --> 01:07:57,100
it just makes I don't know makes me feel

1669
01:08:01,530 --> 01:07:59,800
a lot lighter about such things as if to

1670
01:08:04,620 --> 01:08:01,540
think ah well that's just part of the

1671
01:08:07,470 --> 01:08:04,630
story no big deal and like you said it

1672
01:08:09,690 --> 01:08:07,480
probably will be a recurring theme for

1673
01:08:11,580 --> 01:08:09,700
me also good thing for me to have in

1674
01:08:14,130 --> 01:08:11,590
mind and you heard him I should choose

1675
01:08:18,510 --> 01:08:14,140
you over my own family right that's what

1676
01:08:21,300 --> 01:08:18,520
I heard I'm half kidding but we will see

1677
01:08:24,090 --> 01:08:21,310
if 2019 is a year in which I push

1678
01:08:27,750 --> 01:08:24,100
through resistance or if I retreat to my

1679
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:27,760
stoner haven and I really don't like to

1680
01:08:32,930 --> 01:08:30,730
focus on me as anything more than a

1681
01:08:36,510 --> 01:08:32,940
question asker it's kind of embarrassing

1682
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:36,520
but when we're talking astrology it just

1683
01:08:41,490 --> 01:08:39,370
works it makes me an example that we all

1684
01:08:44,070 --> 01:08:41,500
have in common because if you've been

1685
01:08:46,530 --> 01:08:44,080
listening for years you probably know a

1686
01:08:49,650 --> 01:08:46,540
bit about me and you can judge for

1687
01:08:51,660 --> 01:08:49,660
yourself if these statements from the

1688
01:08:54,480 --> 01:08:51,670
starmap interpretations actually

1689
01:08:56,460 --> 01:08:54,490
resonate with your impression and maybe

1690
01:08:59,160 --> 01:08:56,470
it'll jump-start an interest in diving

1691
01:09:00,480 --> 01:08:59,170
deeper into your own stuff but that's

1692
01:09:03,210 --> 01:09:00,490
what I got for you people

1693
01:09:05,130 --> 01:09:03,220
another THC in the can I hope you had a

1694
01:09:07,590 --> 01:09:05,140
good time with it if you only heard the

1695
01:09:10,590 --> 01:09:07,600
first hour please consider signing up

1696
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:10,600
for THC plus you get twice as much show

1697
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:13,810
twice as much insight twice as much

1698
01:09:20,180 --> 01:09:17,650
weird goodness and I really try to stay

1699
01:09:23,130 --> 01:09:20,190
focused on solid material for you guys

1700
01:09:25,650 --> 01:09:23,140
we get through a lot in an hour here and

1701
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:25,660
I take my job pretty seriously I want it

1702
01:09:30,300 --> 01:09:28,330
to be worth it and in this episode with

1703
01:09:32,550 --> 01:09:30,310
the extra hour we spent it talking about

1704
01:09:35,250 --> 01:09:32,560
the art of number the importance of

1705
01:09:37,860 --> 01:09:35,260
initiation getting off your own personal

1706
01:09:40,740 --> 01:09:37,870
moisture farm the mechanics behind Tarot

1707
01:09:43,440 --> 01:09:40,750
divination and Robert explains some key

1708
01:09:45,780 --> 01:09:43,450
cards of the Major Arcana we talk Popeye

1709
01:09:48,660 --> 01:09:45,790
we talk Walter White and what we're all

1710
01:09:51,570 --> 01:09:48,670
trying to do overcoming these 7 pillars

1711
01:09:52,660 --> 01:09:51,580
of the matrix so diverse as always if

1712
01:09:54,820 --> 01:09:52,670
you want

1713
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:54,830
or want to give Plus as a gift for the

1714
01:09:59,500 --> 01:09:56,690
holidays it's easy to do just make a

1715
01:10:02,200 --> 01:09:59,510
username cater to that person sign up

1716
01:10:03,970 --> 01:10:02,210
and email them the login info and tell

1717
01:10:04,810 --> 01:10:03,980
them how long they have nothing too

1718
01:10:08,290 --> 01:10:04,820
advanced

1719
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:08,300
pretty simple stuff I also got three new

1720
01:10:13,959 --> 01:10:11,330
higher side chats t-shirts in the store

1721
01:10:16,810 --> 01:10:13,969
or at the higher side clothing if that's

1722
01:10:19,390 --> 01:10:16,820
your jam big thanks to everyone who is a

1723
01:10:23,260 --> 01:10:19,400
supporter in one way or another through

1724
01:10:25,540 --> 01:10:23,270
the website or through patreon obviously

1725
01:10:28,630 --> 01:10:25,550
it means a lot and I try not to take my

1726
01:10:30,610 --> 01:10:28,640
position lightly so let's keep making

1727
01:10:33,010 --> 01:10:30,620
that sweet music play and I'll see you

1728
01:10:35,229 --> 01:10:33,020
next time your move archetype invoker's

1729
01:10:39,580 --> 01:10:35,239
are conic influencers and fools on the

1730
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:39,590
cosmic journey your [\h__\h] move

1731
01:10:48,900 --> 01:10:45,290
you know the plan has always been m'kay

1732
01:10:51,820 --> 01:10:48,910
I'll just try to dream you insane

1733
01:10:54,910 --> 01:10:51,830
they'll explode your heart if you think

1734
01:10:59,560 --> 01:10:54,920
that's what it takes you think I'm

1735
01:11:02,800 --> 01:10:59,570
answering the phone when I aim you gotta

1736
01:11:06,070 --> 01:11:02,810
keep it strong cuz I don't want anyone

1737
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:06,080
thinking yo at home well you're not you

1738
01:11:12,220 --> 01:11:09,530
should tape the mail slot and baby if I

1739
01:11:15,130 --> 01:11:12,230
seem withdrawn let me say it's cuz I

1740
01:11:20,689 --> 01:11:15,140
just don't wanna go and get whacked

1741
01:11:24,709 --> 01:11:20,699
maybe you should know that the trauma of

1742
01:11:28,339 --> 01:11:24,719
does everyone it's just the game when

1743
01:11:31,279 --> 01:11:28,349
it's where the world's become they want

1744
01:11:35,180 --> 01:11:31,289
a pattern and the Swap don't you see

1745
01:11:38,239 --> 01:11:35,190
what's going on well now you know you're

1746
01:11:42,770 --> 01:11:38,249
better keep in on your rockers you can

1747
01:11:47,779 --> 01:11:42,780
see the Masters lighting much Oh baby

1748
01:11:52,339 --> 01:11:47,789
you can only trust yourself and if you

1749
01:11:56,419 --> 01:11:52,349
think the system's out of touch it is

1750
01:12:00,580 --> 01:11:56,429
and you can only trust yourself

1751
01:12:04,339 --> 01:12:00,590
hope you know really aren't your friends

1752
01:12:08,719 --> 01:12:04,349
the suck out everything from you in the

1753
01:12:12,709 --> 01:12:08,729
end and if for some reason you think I

1754
01:12:16,790 --> 01:12:12,719
might be wrong I wonder where you got

1755
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:16,800
that opinion from you gotta keep that

1756
01:12:22,879 --> 01:12:19,650
wrong cuz I don't want anyone thinking

1757
01:12:26,330 --> 01:12:22,889
you're at home well you're not you

1758
01:12:29,029 --> 01:12:26,340
should tape the mail slot and baby if I

1759
01:12:31,939 --> 01:12:29,039
seem withdrawn let me say it's cuz I

1760
01:12:35,509 --> 01:12:31,949
just don't wanna go and get whacked

1761
01:12:39,979 --> 01:12:35,519
maybe you should know that the trauma

1762
01:12:42,350 --> 01:12:39,989
affects you like it does everyone it's

1763
01:12:46,310 --> 01:12:42,360
just the game when it's where the

1764
01:12:49,310 --> 01:12:46,320
world's become they want a pat down in

1765
01:12:50,959 --> 01:12:49,320
the swamp don't you see what's going on

1766
01:12:54,450 --> 01:12:50,969
well now

1767
01:12:57,990 --> 01:12:54,460
you're better came in on your own cuz

1768
01:13:02,279 --> 01:12:58,000
you can see the man there's like too

1769
01:13:07,649 --> 01:13:02,289
much Oh baby you can only trust yourself

1770
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:07,659
and if you think the system's out of

1771
01:13:12,860 --> 01:13:11,010
touch it is and you can only trust

1772
01:13:32,050 --> 01:13:12,870
yourself

1773
01:13:35,810 --> 01:13:32,060
[Music]

1774
01:13:40,340 --> 01:13:35,820
you might think that these problems are

1775
01:13:44,540 --> 01:13:40,350
small maybe they aren't registering at

1776
01:13:49,010 --> 01:13:44,550
all now they know you're naive and

1777
01:13:54,010 --> 01:13:49,020
vulnerable you won't believe I love the

1778
01:13:58,040 --> 01:13:54,020
sense that dal PO cuz you can see the

1779
01:14:03,610 --> 01:13:58,050
Masters lied too much oh baby you can

1780
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:03,620
only trust yourself and if you think the

1781
01:14:12,170 --> 01:14:07,650
systems out of touch it is and you can

1782
01:14:17,270 --> 01:14:12,180
only trust yourself because you can see

1783
01:14:22,810 --> 01:14:17,280
the Masters lie too much oh baby you can

1784
01:14:26,810 --> 01:14:22,820
only trust yourself and if you think the